outside the academy, meg is well known by her twitter handle, canopy meg. she is a global champion for forest conservation. she is a role model for women in science. my oldest daughter included. meg is a subject matter expert in a number of tree species, especially eucalyptus, having advised the government of australia along such matters. meg is not only immensely knowledgeable but she is also solutions oriented. it's not just the collection of information, it's how to solve problems. pardon the pun, meg can really see the forest for the trees. on top of all this, meg is an exceptional person. she is a very caring, it's her kindness and integrity that really drive her work so i would ask that you find in her a strong candidate. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. okay, that was public comment. we will close it until all the other applicants present and i have mr. hillen is not going to be attending but in case he is here he can come. okay he is not. so we'll go on to the next, who is andrew sullivan. mr. sullivan maybe had to leave as well. dan