the middle of a wonderful conversation about the use of music in the jewish community with cantor sharon bernstein of congregation sha'ar zahav. welcome back, cantor bernstein. >> thank you, rabbi weiss. >> we've been talking about the ways in which music comes a lot of a gentle tradition and the ways in which a community influences a region. can you talk about music in a contemporary way and how the congregation of sha'ar zahav, a single community and congregation in san francisco, how they've influenced you and influence the development of music for the broader community? >> in terms of music, contemporary music and judaism, we tend to think of this as a modern phenomenon of having more pop or rock music in the synagogue. the research -- not just the research, but what has happened in jewish communities throughout the world, is that the jews tend to be part of the local non-jewish music scene. there is music that sounds like the music of the surrounding culture and jewish music in morocco has less similarities to moroccan music. italian music in the synagogue can sound like this, like opera. peo