the middle of a wonderful conversation about the use of music in the jewish community with cantor sharon bernstein. welcome back. we have been talking a lot about the ways in which music comes out of a general tradition and the ways in which a community influences music or region. i wonder if you could talk about music in a contemporary way? and how a congregation in san francisco his influence to you in the development of music for the broader community . >> in terms of music and contemporary music and judaism , i think sometimes we tend to think of this as a modern phenomenon of having sort of more pop or rock music in the synagogue. the research is, not just research, what is happening jewish communities throughout the world is jews tend to be part of the local non-jewish music scene. you will have music that sounds a lot like the music of the surrounding culture. jewish music in morocco has a lot of similarities to moroccan music. italian music in the synagogue can be sounding a lot like tarantella's [ speaking in a global language ] for opera. what we have happening today is people have a mus