now, a lot of people look across canyon land, say, in southeast utah where this picture is, and it's not really clear how you get around, how you get from place to place. but if you know this place well enough you know right over this lip of white sandstone, if you go right over the ledge and hang your foot over this side, you can't see it but you can feel it with the tip of your foot, there's a little toe hold down there, then if you get on that toe hold you drop your other foot down and there's another toe hold. it happens a thousand years ago somebody carved just a series of toe holds down this rock face. and you climb down those and they lead to a ledge and the ledge wraps around underneath here and it drops down into another spot that you go through a saddle and around to the other side and through another saddle and down and around. it's this circuitous route that's constantly carrying you down deeper and deeper and this is the landscape is just covered with these. i don't take maps out there any more out into this place because it's all memory. this place is the map. i went do

. >> i am in niles canyon, this is one area that they have search looking for any evidence connected with the case. there's a of area to search out here. this is farm land and thick brush, the alameda sheriff department confirms that they insisted that they were police department in one search out your last week which is roughly 15 mi. away from the hayward parking garage where the police now believe that michelle le was murdered. you can see a map of the niles canyon, the search area spanning all we from fremont to snow. we learned that an investigator came here to this location and requested to look at maps of the fire location. it consisted of about 20 to 30 mi. of rugged terrain, the majority of this is controlled by the east bay parks district, there police service said they also assisted hayward police in multiple searches, but they would not confirm where the search took place. hayward pd say they have search five rule vacations, but they tell the family that searches of the rule areas have been put on hold until they develop new information on where to look. >> stay with kron4 news and kron4.com with continuing coverage of the missing to michell

the canyon fire is the most devastating in our history. the best majority was not a federal land. there was reports said took more than 24 hours for the first aircraft to respond and it came from across the state when local resources were passed over. i have to urge you to look dish -- into the issue. we have a post mortem report which is very viable. i think the question arises whether the federal government is using its resources in the most efficient way. can you comment on this? >> with that, it is my understanding which is the case when we loose a fire, we had strong wind. the air tankers do not fly. they're not only not effective, this is not safe. it has been my experience that the fire was a state fire and working with the county. they have the resources that you need. it has been my experience that if they need a large air tanker, they will put the order in. if that the basket there in to the next day, unless i have other information, i would assume it was because of the weather but they would not have been effective but we welcome the review. this is one of the things th

canyon, one of the areas that the investigators have searched. there is a lot of area to search out here, as you can see behind me, this is comprised mostly of farm landy sheriff's department confirmed that their agency assisted the hayward police department in one search out here last week which is roughly 50 mi. away from the hayward parking garage where the police believe that michelle le was murdered. here is a map of the canyon, this is where the search spans. we learned that a hayward police investigator came here to the fire station and requested to look at maps of fire trails of the unpleasant bridge--the rich. but the majority of the rich is controlled by dean parks rangers. and it would not confirm with a search took place. the hayward police said they have conducted five searches in these rural locations. they have told the family that searches of these rural areas have been put on hold until they will develop new information about where to look. >> stay with kron4 and kron4.com for continuing coverage of the missing student michelle le. now, to the latest on the shooting that left a baby dead, an east palo alto, this is our first look at t