they go by many names, capellis. strayer and university of phoenix and others.ifferent. >> there is. they have a different tax status. a lot are publicly traded. they receive investor money and can do some things, ramping up, investing in infrastructure and a scale of a private liberal arts college. it is a big industry as well. there's some big money there, it can move around. it's not - these are not your standard charities. depending on who you ask, yes, it is different. some say there are some benefits capital. >> the access to capital, why didn't that the create an opportunity to provide better students. >> that's a fair question. a lot spend money on marketing, recruiting students, more than they do on construction. that said, some are served well by them. there are some institutions doing well. strayer is doing well. american public, cappella, and most folks say the students are getting good service from those institutions. we heard senator durban from illinois say a few minutes ago that the department of education knew there were problems. weren't proble