after this show airs, i'm going to get a huge amount of mail says why didn't you go to capetown?ight i missed all that? >> i feel like those particular restaurants in capetown are not really representative of what most people in this country are eating. i think a lot of our most basic stuff is really what we do best. this food has absolutely got no interest in fashion. it's never going to change. there'll still be the monkey gland sauce. >> you think the white chefs here understand the greatest advantage they have is that this enormous pan african larder of ingredients and flavors? >> no. if you're a whitey in the city, you're probably going to eat the worst food of anyone in the city, quite honestly. in every country, i mean, obviously food is political. it always feels like it's a bit more political here. that there are these layers of things that you couldn't have. like restaurants. i go to restaurants. i think to myself, wow, this many years ago, i couldn't have come here with this person. they were not allowed to sit in here. and i remember very clearly being around 8. the c