the san the san juan, capistrano case -- i'm sure you are aware is that tiered structures is illegal and i would say there's a provision for rate deviations within that 4-year period and i would urge you to tell staff to get rid of the rates, the tiered rates for water and wastewater before the 4th year and you know that has taken a lot of money from families particularly for wastewater and they have actually been subsidizing the use of the single person household and that can be proved and at any rate maybe we can get rid of tiered rates next year rather than waiting 4 years and i urge you to investigate this a little bit further and we often wonder why are middle class families leaving san francisco because policies and programs squeeze them that's why. thank you. >> thanks very much for being here so along that note my hope would be with respect to the public comment we heard today the issues presented prior to our next meeting on may 13th donna is that correct? we would have some memorandum dealing with those specific issues a particular concern to me and it may be just me were t