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and two need to be rescinded, if not reviewed, admonished and i would ask that you perhaps have cara frederick from the heritage foundation to speak on this topic. the woman is brilliant, and she knows so much about what is going on. i do believe that this is orwellian beyond what george will could have imagined, and i think america needs to fight back against big tech by either getting rid of the social counts -- social accounts, whatever it takes, but we are in deep trouble. like i said, mark klein, at&t executive, he had been on c-span before, and i would ask you bring him back and ask his thoughts on what is going on, as well as mr. snowden or julian assange. there have been a lot of things framed around trying to from those people, which are whistleblowers. i appreciate c-span, and you guys keep up the great work you are doing and all the callers who are critical of you guys, it is because they don't understand the delusion of information you have to deal with each and every day. i am blessed to have you in my life. host: thank you. host:anthony, always appreciate topic suggestions for th

here to discuss is research fellow for technology policy at the heritage foundation cara fredericks. get right into this. mark zuckerberg made a pledge at the very beginning. he said that he would be, facebook would be a free expression platform. you say that he you know, basically not done that. that he has betrayed that pledge. >> exactly. so in october of 2019 it is what you're referring to, he strode out on the stage at georgetown university he set facebook up as a counterweight to china and their digital platforms. he said we're going to stand up for free expression. he encouraged all other american digital platforms to follow suit. he betrayed those values. this is be abrogation of the vas he said facebook stands for. when i led to counter task force at facebook. he used to arrest radicalization of isis inspired would-be terrorists not americans. we didn't turn tools inward on fellow american citizens participating in the marketplace of ideas. this is beyond the pale. rachel: it is very interesting that you bring up he tried to make a comparison between facebook and china. it se

and two need to be rescinded, if not reviewed, admonished and i would ask that you perhaps have cara frederickheritage foundation to speak on this topic. the woman is brilliant, and she knows so much about what is going on. i do believe that this is orwellian beyond what george will could have imagined, and i think america needs to fight back against big tech by either getting rid of the social counts -- social accounts, whatever it takes, but we are in deep trouble. like i said, mark klein, at&t executive, he had been on c-span before, and i would ask you bring him back and ask his thoughts on what is going on, as well as mr. snowden or julian assange. there have been a lot of things framed around trying to from those people, which are whistleblowers. i appreciate c-span, and you guys keep up the great work you are doing and all the callers who are critical of you guys, it is because they don't understand the delusion of information you have to deal with each and every day. i am blessed to have you in my life. host: thank you. host:anthony, always appreciate topic suggestions for this program

i would like to recognize miss cara frederick. thank you for the opportunity to testify today. in four years, a projected 6 billion people will have access to the internet with 80 billion devices connected to the web. this creates profound digital surveillance opportunities. facial recognition as a standard capability. some uses of facial recognition comprised of legitimate safety concerns, finding the capital gazette shooter and detecting individuals without passports. the potential misuse is also high. risks are manifold. i want to focus on three risks in particular. the circumspection of several liberties -- of civil liberties. today, the bureau has asked that over 640 million photos in some cases from private companies. also outsourcing that service to unaccountable companies. they have a history of reckless privacy practices. government agencies have long his private firms to identify patterns and useful information, a renewed push to make use of out door expertise for domestic spying to counter domestic extremism gives a concern. such impulses to outsell -- to out source