carasco we lost earlier this year. are there traffic calming or other strategy could be put in place we're not considering or there are barriers to using them in san francisco or are we employing every possible strategy out there? >> with respect to traffic engineering engineering improvements there's certain ones that are dictated by certain street conditions. i think san francisco, i know san francisco is leading wing implementation of different traffic calming measures and innovative improvements. to the extent that's a response to your question and involved and there's transportation officials and our sfmta is leading and rethinking how urban streets can protect the most vulnerable. >> commissioner: i'm reminded we had a motion to support the automatic ticketing of the red lights that was a state issue to which we have no control. we're still fighting that, right? >> this year the state a zero deaths task force to advance the issues but it's not going as fast we'd hoped and looking at automated enforcement etcetera