. >> host: professor carbado is the co-author of this book: acting white question mark, rethinking race in. >> whats mean to act white. >> guest: i want to emphasize the question mark. it's the sort of understanding how we think about discrimination. if i would ask you, for example to articulate your classic example of discrimination, and the contemporary workplace, you might si it involves a moment in which some decisionmaker picks a white person over a black person. that's the quintessential example elm went to present another kind of discrimination, where a company might say we went person a, black person, over person b, black person, and want to suggest that's a kind of discrimination about which we should be concerned as well. the easiest way for me to explain what that might look like is to move from race in a minute and think about gender. take you back to 1970sed. in that context employers, particularly airlines, were say something like this. we're happy to hire women, but we want women who are not married, and we want women who don't have children. >> host: and certain size. >>