when cardinal egan came to see me on this last occasion which was just a year ago june, i was in the hospital, and they thought i wouldn't pull through on two occasions. i was in there for six weeks, five of six weeks were in the intensive care section which is a very long time. so cardinal egan came to see me, and i said, you know, your eminence, if god wants to take me today, tomorrow, he may need some legal advice -- [laughter] i have no fear. i'll go very quietly. he said, have no fear, your rates are too high. [laughter] finish it was rather sweet. it was rather sweet. i would use that, also, to tell you what i've tried all my life to do professionally is to bring catholics and jews closer together. it's been part of my professional life and my personal life. i probably -- i have gone to st. patrick's cathedral for more than 40 years of midnight mass. i'm a very proud jew. i'm secular. i believe in god. there was a thought at some point amongst catholics that i was considering conversion. i said, it's more likely that john cardinal o'connor will convert than i will. [laughter] i