at one point, she served on an advisory board to chicago's cardinal francis george. she brought the issue of domestic violence to his attention, forcefully, she recalls. >> your eminence, we don't talk about it in our churches, we are not supporting women, and our church would be nowhere if it weren't for women. >> reporter: about 25 people showed up for a meeting on domestic violence at yokie's church after father dahm spoke at the masses. yokie believes churches are one of the best settings in which to address the problem. >> it's the one place where you have the perpetrator, the victim, and the witnesses, the kids, hearing the message that it's wrong, that god loves you, we're here to support you, you don't have to put up with it. >> reporter: men can also be victims of domestic abuse, often in same-sex relationships, but that number is small compared to women. and domestic violence can be other than physical. >> emotional or psychological violence is much more difficult to detect, but it's also more frequent, the belittling, demeaning, the insults. >> that was th