is cleric, lead to the investigation into the allegations in this case having to do with the cardinal mccarron and why he was able to be promoted within the church when alleged the different individuals knew he had abused seminarians. so the process is still underway to appoint someone to do this. but but the apostolic visitation why that is authorized, it has to be a partnership to be credible at this point in time and partnership that includes lay professionals with law enforcement experience and investigative experience. others have said the apostolic visitation is not the right thing to do. and without clerics involved. i don't believe that is something that is debated but i don't know yet. . >> you remember when we interviewed for the job? and you said these bishops and cardinals are a bunch of tough old men. do you think you can handle them? and your response was, she was number three in the bureau and said idea with tough old men all the time and they have fun. [laughter] [applause] . >> there is another story but we would go around the country and try to have our meetings as a board in