cardinal ratzinger said standards appropriate to civil vote the work of a democracy cannot be purely and simply applied to the church. as the holy scene considers their response to the cline report, i want to make it clear that when it comes to the protection of the children of this state, the tan dards of conduct which the church deems appropriate to itself cannot and will not be applied to the workings of democracy and civil society in this republic not purely or simply or otherwise because children have to be and will be put first. >> thank you. >> i propose to share my time with the deputy in relation to this. it's very appropriate that the motion before the house is signed by party group leaders because the only acceptable action to this report is a unity between us all to condemn

well, i don't believe cardinal ratzinger of her lost his faith and certainly has pope i don't think he is fatalist but ironically what he needs now is a real inquisitor. he needs a prosecutor. he needs someone who can go in and clean up the system whereby cardinals and bishops, because of the logic of apostolic succession, enjoy a de facto immunity from punishment. some of you may not know apostolic succession. it is a rather grand term. what it basically means is that every bishop and cardinal, each one of them is in a spiritual lineage descending from the original apostles. as a catholic i am perfectly prepared to accept that with one exception. we cannot even raise the historical memory of judas, who betrayed christ. so many of these bishops and cardinals have betrayed us. not just us as believers but so many people who expect the church to hold itself to high accounts. and, if cardinals and bishops cannot be punished and cannot be appropriately removed, which they are not, then we do not have a justice system. in cleveland, there has been a wave of parish closings in the last two y

cardinal ratzinger said standards appropriate to civil vote the work of a democracy cannot be purely and simply applied to the church. as the holy scene considers their response to the cline report, i want to make it clear that when it comes to the protection of the children of this state, the tan dards of conduct which the church deems appropriate to itself cannot and will not be applied to the workings of democracy and civil society in this republic not purely or simply or otherwise because children have to be and will be put first. >> thank you. >> i propose to share my time with the deputy in ration to this. it's very appropriate that the motion before the house is signed by party group leaders because the only aeptable action to this report is a unity between us all to condemn the actions it exposes, support the victims and affirm our joint commitment to action. the report is very moving for many because i and others which have been affected by this abuse. they are strong communities with a great spirit. they have vibrant sports coves and great facilities. the church has always