s cardoza high, is the role model for a new push by the nonprofit teach for america to get more veteransthe teaching profession. when you let them know you're a veteran, what's the reaction? the question that's usually asked, "mr. thompson, have you shot anyone?" >> axelrod: he was an army paratrooper for three and a half years, seeing combat in afghanistan. >> as a veteran, that passion to serve your country really never leaves you. >> axelrod: so this feels just like another way to be in service. >> most definitely. >> axelrod: unemployment rates for veterans returning from iraq or afghanistan are a full three points higher than the national guard average. former army staff sergeant shawn murph seheading up teach for america's efforts to recruit more vets. >> we value leadership, commitment to service, ability to motivate, influence folks, organizational skills. >> reporter: cardoza high is an inner-city school with inner-city problems, foreign terrain, perhaps, for a wide whitekid from the san francisco suburbs but not this combat veteran. >> one of my favorite students was killed in

frankly i thought the pathologist would have spoken up. >> very suspicious, we know cardoza and what position he's going to take. the defense's position, the reason nobody looks at this, this is a man of the cloth, he comes to the game, you know, cloaked in character, cloaked in the presumption of innocent unlike these folks perhaps in steubenville. at any rate, that's what he comes to the game with. i love michael, but no one would second guess this. you're right, now this is pretty late and there's evidence that probably has dissipated, the body in one case was cremated, no direct evidence against the guy, but the clincher for me, says 55 miles per hour and later when they do an accident reconstruction,s' going 25. how does she die of those injuries at 25 miles per hour. >> greta: he's extraordinarily lucky that the two homicides are being tried separately and i assume the jury, i don't know if the jury is going to hear one of them at some point, but at least the defense lawyer is going to do everything he or she can to prevent that. >> i think they're very lucky in t but, let's tr

joining us our legal panel, michael cardoza, and bernie grimm and ted williams. can he do that, can it be enforced? >> and people say can the police do that and the judge do that? yes, they can, the issue is whether it's-- i think the human right of having children and pro creating, a judge can't step between that, what happens if she gets pregnant, can he order her into court and have an abortion. >> she loses her probation and goes to jail. >> and has the baby in jail, and it's troubling, the woman is completely irresponsible fthere's a case to tell a woman to stop having children, this is it. >> i should add the latest child abuse, a guest found a child strapped into an overturned stroller in a hallway while she was partying. >> again, it's troubling and i wish the judge could do this. we're not living in china where you're limited to the amount of children that you can bring into the world, but let's be very candid here, there are women-- >> it sounds-- >> and these crack babies into the world, there are women who mistreat and abuse these children when they c

in san francisco, former prosecutor michael cardoza and here in washington ted williams and bernie grimm. first troy, he knows this case better than anybody else. >> troy, i want to get an idea from you when the pictures is are shown is there any reaction from the jury? >> they have been stone faced throughout the entire trial. the only two times i saw you reaction number one when they showed travis before body. i don't want to be too graphic but you know pacman with his open mouth his neck was gaping open like that. they were disturbed by that. and really pornographic photos of jodi. >> everything i see and hear or have looked at in the case this woman is crazy as we say in lake charles laz as a jay bird. my question simply is why didn't they go after the insanity defense this this case or i think they would have had a better chance of proving insanity than anything else in this case. i don't know about that. but i looked this woman in the face and i didn't know what to expect when i met her. going to be a monster or something that i could say absolutely i could tell this woman murdered

in san francisco, former prosecutor michael cardoza and here in washington ted williams and bernie grimme knows this case better than anybody else. >> troy, i want to get an idea from you when the pictures is are shown is there any reaction from the jury? >> they have been stone faced throughout the entire trial. the only two times i saw you reaction number one when they showed travis before body. i don't want to be too graphic but you know pacman with his open mouth his neck was gaping open like that. they were disturbed by that. and really pornographic photos of jodi. >> everything i see and hear or have looked at in the case this woman is crazy as we say in lake charles laz as a jay bird. my question simply is why didn't they go after the insanity defense this this case or i think they would have had a better chance of proving insanity than anything else in this case. i don't know about that. but i looked this woman in the face and i didn't know what to expect when i met her. going to be a monster or something that i could say absolutely i could tell this woman murdered somebody. the

joining us our legal panel in san francisco, former prosecutor michael cardoza and here in washingtonnse lawyers bernie grimm and ted williams. bernie, people say can you sue? you can sue, but whether or not you're successful. whether this newspaper should be worried about something. >> no, it's freedom of the press. they can put it out there. there's harm in this and the gentleman seems sincere and bothered by it and if i was a police officer i wouldn't m want my address out there especially the folks. there's know proximate cause, the two guys that burglarized the house, whether they read the newspaper. my guys want to be there, vacation, somebody's at the movies, grab the jewels and cash, get out. >> mike, he wants to hold them accountable if something happens, what does it mean, hold accountable? >> like he said, whatever is legally available to them. sue them for wrongful death if someone should get killed, but here is the question i have and here is what begs the question, this list gets put out. and to me, it's not very well thought out by the newspaper. but they put a list of

cardoza: dominic, sam never forced you to take a space walk. you pushed him out. beau, you shot him, but we found your prints on the air lock, which means you finished him off. and we found all of your dna on the backup air mask. but we didn't find sam's. he never had a chance, did he? (gunshot) dominic: he's still alive. we got to get rid of the body. let's kick him out into space. they'll never find him. no. (air rushing, sam screaming) (alarm beeping) i left with four on board, i got to bring four back. when we land, we pretend he's sick, then we'll figure out what to do. we keep this between ourselves. what was i supposed to do? let everyone die? you don't get to make that decision. this is a disgrace. get them out of here. wait. sam left something for his wife on board. will you make sure she gets it? ("come away with me" by norah jones playing) hey, honey, how you doing? i know we talked already. keith wants us to make a video journal for our loved ones-- so that's you. guess what i am, uh, looking at right now. florida. i am above you right now. i wish you