. >> oh, cardozo! okay. cardozo is descendant from one of the most -- probably the preeminent is partic jewish family in america, a direct ascendant of gershwin mendis sadis, the only rabbi at george washington's inauguration in 1790. mendis-sashis had been the first screw ever appointed to the board of governors of columbia university at the recommendation of alexander hamilton, and not until benjamin cardozo would another jew be appointed. he came -- one of his cousins was the -- what is it, the deputy mayor of new york. emma lazarus was a first cousin, et cetera. >> so, we know -- this is an appropriate term for a sefartic jew, so we know about his yicis, but what about his beliefs, his practices? >> well, he, too, he belonged to what's called the spanish-portuguese synagogue in new york, which is the oldest continuing synagogue in the united states. he belonged meant that he kept a ticket, and when he was in new york, he occasionally went on the high holidays. i mean, he always kept it -- there was

cardozo. cardo cardozo! >> he is lowed bay the -- and it may not ring a bell for most of you, but he was the only rabbi officiating at george washington's giving an invocation and there were 14 clergy at his inauguration in 1790. the first jew was appointed to the board of governors at columbia university at the recommendation of alexander hamilton and not until benjamin cardozo would another jew be appointed to this. he came and one of his cousins was the -- what is it? the deputy mayor of new york and emma lazarus was the first cousin, et cetera. >> we know, this is an appropriate term for safartic jew. we know about his -- >> what about his beliefs and his practices? >> he, too, he belonged to what's called the spanish portuguese, and the oldest, and when he was in new york he occasionally went on the high holidays. i mean, he always -- there was a seat that -- in his honor. he very rarely attended services there. he had his bar middle va thetzvd unlike brandeis who served, you know, food always, and card

even in the case of cardozo. the one thing it did do, which is a legacy of both brandeis and frankfurter, for the first time they appointed jewish law clerks. some of the law clerks were much more reline of scrimmaggioureli. one other exception, goldberg. on church/state issues, goldberg's jewish background did have some influence on his opinions. >> so a couple things more about justice brandeis. you talk about this in your book, but justice brandeis had an uncle with whom he was very close, close enough to take his middle name who was very, very observant. do you want to talk about that just a little bit? >> sure. his uncle's name was louis democr dembet. his uncle was one of the leaders of the orthodox jewish community. he was a jewish scholar, actually pubbished a couple of books on the bible. he was an orthodox jew. brandeis recalls in his letters very mem rorably his uncle was fer haven't fervent abolition n. now his uncle was one of the founders of the republican party. that's the party of lincoln and the

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for more, we go now to berkeley, california, where we're joined by nate cardozo, a senior staff attorney electronic frontier foundation. his group is assisting dreamhost in its opposition to the government's search warrant nate cardozo, welcome to democracy now! first, explain exactly what the government is demanding. >> thank you for having me. the government is demanding that dreamhost, which is a web hosting provider based in l.a., turn over literally every record that it has regarding one of its customers. the site disrupt j20.o.org. there would be all of the billing information, which the government already has via a subpoena issued back in january. it means all of that email that was ever sent or received from disrupt j20.org. most importantly, it means the ip addresses of everyone who ever visited the site, which apparently, according to dreamhost, is more than 1.3 million people, americans andnd people aroround the world, including, yours truly. amy: how unusual is this request? it quite inot seen this context before. we have seen the government make request this broad, for insta

recognized the netable critique about the exclusionary rule about guilty people going free or as benjamin cardozo often repeated lament about the rule, the criminalists to go free because a con stab elhas blund erred. to answer this question are the supreme court responded the erts of the court and their officials to bring the guilty to punishment praise worthy as they are, are not to be aided by the sacrifice of those great principles established by years of endeavor and suffering which have resulted in their embodied am in the fundamental law of the land. so the fact that the exclusionary rule was considered a fundamental part of the fourth amendment is tremendously important. and for 35 years after weeks versus u.s. the united states would return to this premise when it encountered cases involving the exclusionary rule and actions by federal officers. what it didn't do until 1949 was examine whether or not the exclusionary rule should be applied to states as well as the federal government. the court finally did this in 1949 in a case called wolf versus colorado. a case involving the search and

i think there definitely is a relationship in the case of cardozo, who did although he was not a practicing orthodox jew, who did have a significant understanding of jewish tradition, talmudic precedence and tradition. brandeis didn't have that jewish knowledge and education. now, he later became very interested in judaism, but i'm not sure if one can draw a connection between his decisions in those areas and his -- maybe they had been inculcated subconsciously, but he did not have the knowledge or understanding of jewish teachings and biblical teachings that cardoza did. although cardoza did not set foot in the synagogue, but he had the jewish knowledge. that would be the only thing. brandeis did, you're right, on those decisions and because he was a progressive reformer also. he was one of the leading, you know, progressive voices in america at that point. >> brian dodge's name stays alive with the university of louisville's law school, the louis brandeis law school. >> which is wonderful. it really is. that was changed, i guess, in the past 20 or 30 years. >> okay. we have one from the l