for more, let's bring in michael cardozo, and michael, the judge called the law, onerous, convoluted,nd constitutionally defective. >> that is correct and i imagine the state buy ammunitio under the state law, what they have to do is go to a background check, and be owned a weapon before, what the gun store does is they check your background, it takes one, maybe two minutes. if you never about a weapon before, and you are not to the automatic firearms system of the state, the gun store then takes information from you, it might take a day or two to do that background check, that federal judge in san diego struck that lockdown. >> talk a little bit about why supporters believe this is a good idea, supporters like gov. newsom. he said that this restriction keeps communities safe. >> well, when you are talking about is, ammunition. you don't want ammunition to fall into the hands of felons, for example, or mentally ill th says this is a law. people interpret this depending on which side of the line that they fall on. now most of us are sort of sensuous about this. we are in favor of the s

and i said a contract with cardozo law? i went and then i had to explain to her why was still going into teaching. the only explanation accepted. i said justice o'connor, i am 30. i have to have my children. and she said ok. [laughter] and she said maybe put it all off, if you years, have your kids. >> she did think some of us to be academics. she thought i should be a partner in a law firm. another one came into academia and she had a fit, she thought he should be an investment banker. she was not wrong. about a lot of these things. [laughter] >> you should have listened. >> i should have. >> that is advised to have kids and come back, was her path. she came back to become the most trailblazing judge in american history. the first woman on the court. during the time all of you are there, she was the only woman on the court it is remarkable to remember. but justice ginsburg did not get there until 1993. what was it like for you to clerk for someone who was the only woman on the court and did those dynamics ever arise? >> it

i didn't know then cardozo know. these houses were commissioned by the chinese government. each family that settles here receives a grant of 7000 you want to get in the. future not all of them do your. families are forced to take out a construction lot of 30250000 you want to. pay no interest for the 1st 5 years. you look they've been building here for 3 years and. then there's the then last summer. my baby was born on august 11th. we had no money so we had to borrow from others. it took us all winter to pay off our debts. on the march and we didn't have enough yaks usually on. food costs and in the. book actually i wanted to go to school and become a nurse just. before my son was born and i always wanted to learn a professional. knowledge of john. paul but if i left now i do miss my son and my mother too much. couldn't have giacomo my cooking wanted to prove me wrong there no not next year. you know. you're you're. you're done what you're facing some major challenges you know. something i haven't realized it yet but this land will not go into people asking where you. seem.

joining us now to talk more about this issue is our legal analyst, michael cardozo.ery good to have you on here, so already we have several churches in southern california who have sued the state, basically, over the stay- at-home orders that band religious gatherings. what do you think of the argument that they are making, that they are being, the congregants at least are being denied their fundamental right to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom to assemble. >> i don't think it is a very good argument, alex. we are not, the state is not denying them freedom of religion, it has been denying them the right to congregate and that is much different. with the state has to do is a balancing act. we have public safety on one side, we have freedom of religion on the other side. this does not take away the right to worship. it takes away the right to worship in a congregation of 10 or more people. and especially when you hear they're not wearing masks come of they are not staying far enough apart, they are absolutely wrong, when they bring these challenges a

law firms after clerking for her in a moment of, oh, maybe i did make the wrong decision going to cardozo, i talked to someone who associated and said he'd never seen his young children who were beautifully pictured there in the daylight. and i thought, you know, justice o'connor would not permit that. you would have seen your kid in the daylight. and that's just who she was. she had family values. she believed in fun. she believed in making us do things when we were too tired to do them and we always ended up appreciating it. she fed us on the weekends. i don't think there's any other clerkship like it. >> wow. >> in the spirit of justice o'connor, we must end this segment on time. we'll reconvene in a moment, but for helping us appreciate the judicious humanity of justice o'conn o'connor, please thank your panelists. [ applause ] welcome to part two. you heard part one. and your colleagues were so superb. this was so quick that i didn't have a chance to ask you, which terms you clerked for. let's quickly tell us. >> 2002, 2003. >> wonderful. >> i was 02-04. >> i was '94. >> we heard abo