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the caregiving resource center at aarp.org/caregiving.: all right, i told you we would have secret service code names for two leading gop candidate, donald trump's code name, this one works well. mogul. dr. ben carson's code name, eli, they requested protect in mid october, secret service granting their request last week, eli, a reference to a nickname are in student stupe -- for students at yale, and mogul, selfes explainer to. >> mark samone. >> jeb bush's code name, he is so dull, his code name is jeb bush. lou: we're just beginning. radio talk show hosts, joining us. you are -- i consider you great pals, and great talents, this is super to have you here. mark let's start with the debate. you are not holding back who won? >> well, fox business, if you are over there at cnbc, that is how you do a debate, not just question the moderators, the production, over their they did not have producing talent or infrastructure to get it done right, that was a masterful debate, donald trump is number one. i think carly fiorina had a rough time, i d

the caregiving resource center at aarp.org/caregiving. . lou: for the first time, milania trump, she has views on her husband's candidacy, and she says she pushed donald to run. >> i encourage him. >> you did? you encouraged him? >> i know what he will do and what he can do for america. he loves the american people, and he wants to help them. lou: trump also revealed that she told him to tone it down after a couple of debates. joining us now radio talk show host on wpht in philadelphia don giordano and host of mornings on the mall on wmal in washington, editor at large larry o'connor. gentlemen, good to have you both with us. let's start with the scorched earth policy that the gop establishment is announcing against trump. don, go to you, what's your thought? >> well, that will only increase, lou, the volume of calls and the pro-trump calls i get and how hardened trumps voters are. they are not moving back and forth. the more they do this, the more establishment fingerprints on this, the better trump is going to be. lou: larry, how do you f