my message to the caribbean diaspora is spread the word to get vaccinated to save your life so we can way of life, with reggae, whether it's all these lovely things, football, chutney, all these things. the way out of this pandemic right now is simply get vaccinated. >> trevor: well, i'll tell you now, minister, you had me at doubles and playing mass. i'm going to try to lose a little of my covid weight and be back. maybe we'll play in the same band. >> that would be good. and my children are great fans of you. >> trevor: thank you so much for taking the time, minister. appreciate you. >> you're welcome, my friend. >> trevor: thank you so much for joining us. thank you to the people of trinidad for being such good sports because i know that everything has become a joke these days, but i hope that everyone remembers that, for trinidadians, this is a very real thing. trinidad is a real place with real people that is going through a very real pandemic right now, one that decimated the economy like many countries in the world. so this issue is something that they didn't need to be dealing

and there has been horror across the diaspora, not just from caribbean americans but black people who watched these men on horses swing whatever it was, a long rein at people, and charge horses, the president came out and said these men will pay, mayorkas says there will be an investigation. talk about the discrepancy and the broader question about what this means, this moment for this administration. >> certainly we heard president biden finally address this today at the end of a week after several days of questions about what administration believed was happening in those searing images. he addressed t calling it horrific. this is the first time we have heard secretary mayorkas in the white house briefing room. he has talked about it throughout the week. there will ban investigation, it does not hold the ethics and values of his department. but you can tell, as you were just saying there, the last question in the briefing room a few moments ago about the searing history and the hurt and the pain that those images certainly have conjured up, and we heard the secretary there say he al