close by, 3 miles or so from the pit as it's now called and -- so in 1964 which was the year of carl ashmann aliquippa history, aliquippa played hopewell. they played for something called the steel bold trough-- trophy and he went on pitching, went onto pitch many teams in the major leagues and he was only known as -- i'm trying to get -- and so what happened was that hopewell late aliquippa beat hopewell that night. this is how he put it. before that, good and bad, one pure moment by which to measure, helped take down the toughest guy around. everybody was really surprised that we won, everybody. even the guys on our team were surprise that had we won because we thought they were tougher than that really. who didn't and, indeed, there has been no greater upset announced the following monday. it had been 25 years ashley declared since he had been so stunned by a loss. aluiquippa fans sat silent waiting for the next miracle, the times went on. their expressions would not exchange if the earth had opened up and some would have welcomed him. so that hopewell is a strange -- they have a strange

component with carl ashman. they thought she he was a straight shooter and respected him for that. >> you mentioned the name jeno, he's my italian mom and both my ukle passed away in june and he attended funeral. who are these girls? and my mom, she's slipping a little bit but she recognized four faces just like that jeno was happy because he's still active and just keeping aliquippa the place that it always has been. >> he really is a walking history book and knows more about it and, you know, specially for the older generations he knows stuff that will disappear and i hope i got some of it in. he was really helpful to me on the book. >> we've got someone over there for a while. [inaudible] >> that was going to be my next question. who is actually from aliquippa? and who has an aliquippa connection in your family? all the hands up. >> so actually i have a question. i mean, i think of aliquippa as a special place and i will tell you that i do get arguments from other people, from western pa. yeah, it's special b