. >> let's take a look at carl bernstein, what he said on "morning joe" this morning. >> it's totally inexcusable that this administration has been terrible on this subject from the beginning. the object of it is to intimidate people who talk to reporters. this was an accident waiting to become a nuclear event. and now it's happened. this is a matter of policy. it is known to the president of the united states that this is the policy. to say that there was no knowledge in quotes specifically about this in the white house is nonsense. >> well, there you saw one of the high priests of journalism there, carl bernstein there, rachel, speaking i believe for the political -- the journalistic establishment. krou start messing with us, you start collecting our phone numbers, our records of who we call, you're challenging the first amendment. he certainly made that statement there. is he right? >> he made it very strongly. i don't think you'll find a lot of disagreement among members of the press corps on that. it really does go to the heart of the news gathering process. i mean, reporters ass

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associated press for two months, 20 different phone lines, including the homes of some reports, carl bernsteinoutrageous and totally inexcusable. what we know so far is that the eric holder says he recused himself from this as part of the leak investigation about a story that appeared in may of 2012. eric holder accused himself but the actual conduct here i think is just profoundly chilling and troublesome and shows complete disregard for the department's own guidelines about how they're supposed to go about doing this. joan, you've been on the same page. >> right. they had other options. they could have and should have gone to ap. this was not a secret investigation where they would be blowing their cover. this was a well known investigation. it was another scandal, the leak scandal, and so they went farther than they had to go. they went more secretly an they are -- this comes in the context of them being incredibly tough on whistle blowers, prosecuting more whistle blowers than all presidencies combined. there is a pattern here. it is troubling that this is the scandal that's getting the le

carl bernstein, he of watergate fame, did not mince words. >> totally inexcusable, that this administration has been terrible on this subject from the beginning. the object of it is to intimidate people who talk to reporters. this was an accident waiting to become a nuclear event. and now it's happened. >> the outrage thus far has been bipartisan. daily news marcus tweeted, people looking for an obama scandal. this one spying on the a.p. is the first legit one. the question remains, who is to blame? according to jay carney. the white house had no knowledge of the doj's seizure of phone records, but house oversight chair darrell issa is having none of it. in a statement yesterday, he wrote americans should take notice that top obama administration officials, increasingly see themselves as above the law and emboldened by the belief that they don't have to answer to anyone. but let us not forget when exactly the white house began to see itself as being above the law. buzz feed reports from 2007, darrell issa voted against a bill that would have protected media outlets from doj subpoenas. repub

the special senate committee was set to build on reporting by bob woodward and carl bernstein of the "washington post" and reporters at other news organizations. one key question was famously put by committee vice-chairman, republican howard baker. >> what did the president know, and when did he know it? >> brown: 40 years after democratic committee chair sam ervin, the self-described "old country lawyer" from north carolina, first gaveled the hearings into session, macneil and lehrer-- robin and jim to us-- returned to the same studio from which they'd broadcast in the summer of 1973 for more than 250 hours. did you have any idea what you were getting into at that moment, either for the nation or for your own futures? >> i think we did. remember, we broadcast live during the daytime as it happened. and then we completely repeated it, gavel to gavel. so it was a double-hit there. and that was a huge commitment for public broadcasting to make. and the reason they made it was because of this premise that the presidency of the united states was at stake. now, not necessarily that it was

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carl bernstein, he of watergate fame, did not mince words. >> totally inexcusable, that this administrationible on this subject from the beginning. the object of it is to intimidate people who talk to reporters. this was an accident waiting to become a nuclear event. and now it's happened. >> the outrages

and carl bernstein, of course of watergate fame said this couldn't possibly reach the white house.his is surely a few bad apples at the irs. this is a guy who didn't take richard nixon's word for it 40 years ago and rightly so. now president seems sure? advance -- it reminds me a little bit of people saying listen the boston bombers were lone wolves not in touch with anybody, this kind of instant certainty that this didn't go any further than the immediate hop persons are a mystery to tree. alan had it right. it happened two years ago. there is a lot of investigation to go. breitbart news has a story about the i, rs -- the subunit of the irs who was doing the investigating to knock it off. that was in july of 2011. obviously they kept at it and "the new york times" in march of 2012 was praising the irs for being aggressive on this as james ceranto point efld out in the "wall street journal." there is a lot of strings to unravel here. let's hope the president really means what he said in the press conference a moment ago. jon: there is a lot to talk about today. we have to take a qu

i was at an event a year and half ago with carl bernstein and satellite link.bernstein was exercised about the lifelong after he left the white house after two nixon to eradicate the list of things he did. how good job of historians, how he did in making us forget the things he did. >> at his funeral, bill clinton said let's not judge. they will, time that we judge's entire presidency by one thing. i think he was taking a broader view of nixon now. the war was johnson's war. he told sulzberger the u.s. can't fold. he was a cold warrior. it was a great tragedy. 58,000 americans died in that war in 18 dozen died when nixon was president and they didn't have to. they were stuck there. but i don't think -- i think he became a valuable counselor in some ways. i think people will never forget what he did. but i think eradicate it is the right word, but will begin to see him for all his personal quirks that the further away they get from him, the more interesting people have i hope. >> i disagree slightly with jeff. i think there was an effort made to alter public per

i was at an event a year and half ago with carl bernstein and satellite link.bernstein was exercised about the lifelong after he left the white house after two nixon to eradicate the list of things he did. how good job of historians, how he did in making us forget the things he did. >> at his funeral, bill clinton said let's not judge. they will, time that we judge's entire presidency by one thing. i think he was taking a broader view of nixon now. the war was johnson's war. he told sulzberger the u.s. can't fold. he was a cold warrior. it was a great tragedy. 58,000 americans died in that war in 18 dozen died when nixon was president and they didn't have to. they were stuck there. but i don't think -- i think he became a valuable counselor in some ways. i think people will never forget what he did. but i think eradicate it is the right word, but will begin to see him for all his personal quirks that the further away they get from him, the more interesting people have i hope. >> i disagree slightly with jeff. i think there was an effort made to alter public per

jeffrey bernstein in atlantic. morgan stanley, carl, they're wise to us and did you see their price target today? 996. they know we were about to put the hammer to them. >> thai did a 10 for 1 split we would be talking about a 100 price target and when you see this kind of activity where the guy goes 996, what you say is apple better stop right here because everybody who took the price target from 600 down to 60 is in jeopardy because then they have to raise the price target because they've got to provide the value. >> you were the first person to point out that the value of that might not be as great as we think. >> it's true. you have to pick and choose very, very carefully. that's because they were making an enormous amount money from investment banking. when that has largely been staunched as a result, yes, you don't get the compensation levels and so you could argue, back then you had a lot of smart guys who were heavily conflicted and now the question is -- speaking of the street, of the 17 strategists that are tracked only five

carl smith. kim barker with the investigative web city propublica. i said i was going to put another proposal on the table. this one, i'm going give credit to jonathan bernstein wrote a piece called how to fix the irs mess. at the root of all of this really is a basic problem. that's -- basic issue. the supreme court has said in two rulings over the last 35 years or so, money equals free speech. second, the corporations can give money to elections. you have that and then you look at the evolution of campaign finance reform law over the last generation or so where it basically has -- been an attempt to move political money away from candidates, away from campaigns and parties. you had soft money originally and you had 527s a decade ago after mccain/feingold. now the new loophole karl rove and other people exploit, patch up the 4 it goes somewhere else. what bernstein proposed, he said -- let's admit that this money right now because of the supreme court is -- it is out will and will find a way into the system. let it go back to the campaigns and let it be unlimited and goes to the campaigns and fully disclosed and public financing. >> i want to take -- i want

that this was about finding a leak, that was leaking information about terror plots but carl bernstein said the object of this investigation was to intimidate people who talked to reporters. does that sound right to you? >> yeah, absolutely. there has been an on-going war on whistle-blowers prosecuting them under the espionage act. i have represented people in two of those cases. one of which crumbled in spectacular failure that of thomas drake. but obama has indicted more people under the espionage act than all u.s. presidents combined. it was first used on pentagon papers whistle-blower dann elsburg. that's meant to send a chilling message. if it were not already freezing cold in the land of journalism and the blogosphere, this was meant to chill it even more. because i've said all along, reporters, you need to be worried about it. they're going after your sources. now, some reporters were worried about sources getting burned. but only now that they're in the cross hairs do they seem really to have awoken to the fact that this is such a problem. but whatever it took, i'm glad they're