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carl bernstein, thank you very much for being with us.ute we will be going to the white house. live pictures as we await the briefing. a racially charged senate contest is coming to an end as mississippi voters cast their ballots in this special election run off. we are live from jackson. from the mexican border to the rest of the world. it is a picture that has gone viral. now this mother caught in a cloud of tear gas with her children is speaking out. let's go to the white house. >> the president and first lady will travel to argentina for the g-20 summit. president trump's participation is a key opportunity to reiterate the global and economic report. cement relationships with leaders in a global economic system in fair economic competition and free, fair, and reciprocal trade. the president and the delegation will interact with many leaders including bilateral meetings with the president of argentina, president of russia and the chancellor of germany and a working dinner with the president of china. to speak more about what the presid

this is really very, very heavy sledding. >> and carl bernstein, one thing i want to point out. the timeline in this is spring of 20 18. donald trump had been president of the united states for well over a year by this point. 14, 15 months. the excuse that you might hear from some supporters oh, that he didn't know what the job was. he doesn't know what a president should and shouldn't do. by 16 months into the administration, he should know what the justice department can and can't do and what he can and can't order. >> there are no excuses, and this is a defining moment in the history of the trump presidency, because this is a demonstration of his unfitness to be president of the united states, of his abuse of presidential power, of his em babrace of authoritarian. it's going to get the attention of some in congress. we are watching a president of the united states undermine the very principles of our democracy, the president of the united states swears. today i read the articles of impeachment against richard nixon. everybody should read article 2 and how similar it is to wha

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carl bernstein is here is, also max boot, the author of "the corrosion of conservatism, why i left the right," douglas brinkley joins us, as well. the famous and brilliant historian. we appreciate all of you. so first, max, what's going on down in florida? because the sitting governor, rick scott, ordering an investigation deploying law enforcement over an election that he is in charge of. does this sound okay to you? >> it doesn't. listening to rick scott, his primary evidence that there is fraud seems to be his voter margin is going down which would seem to be an indication he's not getting as many votes he would like. that's not indication there's fraud or a reason to declare a crisis. this is very suspicious is, especially when donald trump joins in and is tweeting about how there is some massive scandal going on in florida, that being a member of donald trump's party may be in danger of losing his election. >> read that tweet. this is what the president tweeted. law enforcement is looking into another big corruption scandal having to do with election fraud in broward and palm beac

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carl bernstein. how do you see this? i mean, this has been talked about now for quite a while, the idea of jeff sessions, you know, the president has been making fun of jeff sessions publicly, privately. it's no surprise he got rid of jeff sessions. did you expect rosenstein, though, to step up into the role? >> i think rosenstein has been surpassed by whittaker's appointment unless whittaker recuses himself. more important, what we saw today, we saw a kind of coup against the rule of law, a kind of action that you see in a tinpot dictatorship in which now we have the president of the united states who clearly from the beginning has been trying to shut down, bury the mueller investigation. he is on the road to doing it. he's done it today after the election. under the cover of night as it were. and this is anti-democratic in the sense, lower case "d," in the sense we now have a president of the united states who is willing to totally undermine the system of justice in this country for his own ends. >> laura, i mean, is t

it was not summit deal or as carl bernstein wrote, it was not an alliance or treaty or anything like that. what it was is to people with interests in common who were cooperating. as they cooperated, they learned to trust and appreciate and like each other. sat on the -- you national security council for all eight years of the administration. let me ask a couple of questions. if i'm asking for classified information, just slap me. how many times did you believe there was a credible threat that the soviets might roll into poland? >> there was always that possibility. i don't remember it at any time particularly during the year 1981 where that appeared to be an imminent threat. the soviets always had large military forces in they always were using them to oppress or at least be a threat to a whole number of nations. threat iof an imminent don't think was, at least, i can or member that being talked about. >> ronald reagan taking office, the military buildup of course had barely begun by 1981. did that change the psychology? was there some sense in which ronald reagan as president would

fabulously wealthy and they were portrayed by robert redford and in a very bit of generosity, carl bernstein was protected by dusting off steam -- dustin hochstein. they made millions of dollars and up and coming want to be like that. a then they became activists but the editors at the time tried to pump the brakes on that. people that wanted to make a difference are now the editors and you have a whole bunch of social justice warriors coming in and they don't want to pump the great. where the social justice become the editors that is going to be press releases and big slap under somebody's byline in. my daughter is going to have to be skeptical of everything she didn't get multiple sources on the same story from all of those sources. >> host: why does the left hates the truth? >> guest: we only have ten minutes left. it's funny because before he announced he was running, they invited him to their parties and they went to his parties and morning joe, they were panels and now he's hitler. he spots one of them anymore. why does it matter, they are saying my 80% friend is now my 20% enemy with

that what you have is parallel interests, as george weigle says it was not just some deal or as carl bernstein wrote about, it was not an alliance, or, a treaty or anything like that. what it was was to people with interests in common were cooperating. and, as they were cooperating, they learned to trust and appreciate and like each other. >> now, you set on the national security council for all eight years of the administration, let me ask a couple of questions. if i am asking for classified information just slap me, but a couple of questions. >> we will put you in jail. [ laughter ] >> how many times do you believe that there was a credible threat that the soviets might roll into poland?>> well, i think there was always that possibility but i do not remember at any time particularly during the year 1981 wear that appeared to be an imminent threat. >> i see. >> in other words the soviets always had large military forces, and they always were using them, to oppress or threaten a number of nations. the countries and others. but the idea of an imminent threat, i do not think, at least i cannot r

so we are back to the rage-a-holic president. >> carl bernstein, good to have you with us. we always appreciate your experience and expertise. >>> kellyanne conway's husband calls the trump administration a dumpster fire. that is a quote. hear his no holed barred interview next. >>> happening now the house ethics committee issuing judgment against two members of congress involved in sexual harassment related complaints. details on that next. >>> nancy pelosi coming face-to-face with critics within her own party. one of them is a congresswoman who made challenge pelosi for the speakership role. here what happened next. being detected was not an option. if i was recognized the whole operation was blown. the element of surprise was imperative. wow. he won't even recognize you. seriously. i don't even recognize myself. and thanks to my cashrewards credit card from navy federal with never-expiring rewards it's gonna be a killer honeymoon. woo! maui!! boom navy federal credit union. our members, are the mission. >>> we're watching developments on capitol hill at this hour where h

. >> we've heard a lot since trump took office and just last month, carl bernstein had this advice for the press. take a listen. >> i think we need to be rethinking how we conduct these briefings and what our response is to the press conferences and briefings when the president of the united states basically uses them as an occasion to lie and to manipulate the press. i don't think we should necessarily be running them verbatim from beginning to end. i think it's like giving him free air time during the campaign. i think we need to reevaluate how we engage with the president, not get ourselves manipulated. >> i love carl but how many times have you heard this call to maybe rethink the way we cover him and what does that look like and i would love to know. >> i think it's really important it's a struggle in newsrooms like this one to figure out what the right answer is. for example, cnn and msnbc are not showing trump's rallies anymore unless there's big breaking news. i think there's the right answer because the rallies are rarely filled with news but today, for example, the president

white house chief of staff bob alderman who ended up doing 18 months in federal prison, and carl bernstein's book on nixon's final days captured the whispered backstage drama about the possibility of pardons at the white house. a subject richard nixon would not dare discuss publicly. the president's senior advisers including his new chief of staff alexander hague and the lawyer with the best political sense in the nixon white house, were adamantly opposed to the president issuing pardons for anyone including his former chief of staff bob halderman. the president's criminal defense lawyer was a litigator who had no experience in politics and at one point according to woodward and bernstein he said at one point maybe a pardon should be considered. and that is when he erimentupte. saying if richard nixon pardoned any of the then accused criminals in his administration the president would be impeached. he said if the president grants this pardon, he will be insuring his own trial. he will be forcing it. the public has to have a head, and if the president takes the heads away the public will have

back with carl bernstein and jif jeffrey toobin. the lawyers are involved. >> right.s is a take-home open-book exam, and the advantage of it is you get to have help and he gets help from his lawyers, but what i think he was doing was responding to rudy giuliani's post where he said there are a lot of troubling issues and some of the questions are problematic. the president is trying to give the impression this whole thing was a piece of cake. i have nothing to fear, i answered the questions easily, i don't need my lawyers. that's the message he's trying to send, whether it's true, that i couldn't tell you. >> we've been calling this an open-book exam, making light of the fact that he has his lawyers there. but still he has to tell the truth. i have to believe the legal team is going over every word of these questions and every word of their answers meticulously. what's going on behind closed doors? >> of course they're going to review his answers. some of this information if it has to doed wi with instruction that goes to his intent, whether it was before he was presi

. >> carl bernstein, how do you see this? i mean, this has been talked about now for quite a while. the president has been making fun of jeff sessions, publicly, privately. it's no surprise he got rid of jeff sessions. did you expect rosenstein, though, to step up into the role? >> i think that rosenstein has been surpassed by whittaker's appointment unless whittaker recuss himself. but more important what we saw today is a kind of coup against the rule of law. the kind of action you see in a tin pot dictatorship. now we have a president of the united states who clearly from the beginning has been trying to shutdown, bury the mueller investigation. he is on the road to doing it. he has done it the day after the election, under the cover of night as it were. and this is anti-democratic in the sense of lowercase "d," in the sense we now have a president of the united states who is willing to totally undermine the system of justice in this country for his own ends. >> laura, i mean is there anything to stop if whittaker wanted to do what he said on television and cut the budget for rob

then he said something that carl bernstein disagreed with and bernstein started debating triumph. >>nestly. so i immediately said, give me a split, give me a split. so you have bob woodward debating like this and triumph on the other side going -- >> from watergate to triumph. >> exactly. >>> moving on, power up. jackie, you're looking at president trump's last-minute pitch to women voters and whether it's too lit too late. what did you find? >> well, last night, there was the unusual sight of seeing president trump in indiana flanked by his daughter, ivanka trump, sarah huckabee sanders and then the white house counselor kellyanne conway who happened to be the three most requested sur r requested surrogates. you saw the president mitt himself with sinclair broadcasting that after two years of using very inflammatory and divisive rhetoric that he probably could have taken a softer tone. and i think that's because this president is finally realizing that he is at risk of being a one-term president. it isn't something that you can just ignore, but it is possible that this is too lit to