let's ask carl bernstein here in new york. that's the question. we living up to this moment in history? >> by we, the press, yes, our institutions so far the answer is not hardly. >> you mean the congress? >> well, the congress to the united states particularly because there has been no real by for t bipartisan investigation of the most authoritarian president in the history. let go back to basics here. we find ourselves in this situation, right now, because there is an on going coverup by the president of the united states. whether that constitutes a violation of law, whether he is a criminal or not, that the for down the road but right now it's obvious to anyone that watches, anyone who looks at the facts, reads the mueller report, the obstruction part particularly, we are in the midst of a continued coverup by the president and aided and abedded -- abetted by the attorney general of the united states. he got them now by the attorney general and where this is taking us is to an unprecedented place. it not about a constitutional crisis. this is a

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. >> "out front" now, pulitzer prize journalist carl bernstein.aura coates and david priest of the law affairs. he briefed robert mueller for more than a year. the author of "how to get rid of the president, history's guide to removing a chief executive." carl, let me start with you. the latest information we have after five hoursish of grilling, why? >> the question, he doesn't want to answer questions truthfully and fully and in great detail especially after today and how disingenuous he was throughout today's proceedings. i also think that perhaps the democrats are making a big mistake and that they could do better perhaps by being a little more imaginative. they could have the counsel go from member to member to member and put questions in front of each member and have -- >> the lawyers asking it -- >> and have one member yield to another. i think they could be much more clever about how they handle this recalcitrance. they shouldn't appear so inflexible. the point is to get him in there and see what he has to say. >> interesting point. >> i t

here tonight, more than once during this time slot over the last two-plus years, we have quoted carl bernsteinwho always says, republicans were the heroes of watergate. we have asked our guests from time to time, who they see as a potential profile in courage emerging? who is out there right now? additionally, when it feels as if life is in crisis, it's always useful to ask, wwafd. that stands for what would atticus finch do? we can't ask him and in our effort to ask him, we asked the man who plays him in the jeff sorkin production. jeff daniels was a guest here today. and what he said has received a lot of attention already because of how he said it. >> you look at the cowardice of the people in the race. that's not courage. that's making sure you have a job after politics. courage is standing up and being a true patriot like we used to have in 1776 and all of that. who are the heroes going to be? is it going to be the daniel elsburg pentagon papers guy? i'm waiting for that guy. >> we're all waiting for that guy. >> we need people like that. and to look at congress with all of the politics g

the quote from carl bernstein endures. it's something for everybody to think about. republicans were the heroes of watergate. that is our broadcast for this thursday night. thank you so much for being here with us. good night, from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. infrastructure meeting saying he can't work with democrats if investigations continue.ig >>> plus high-profile attorney michael avenattito facing new charges

the quote from carl bernstein endures, it's something for everybody to think about, republicans were the heroes of watergate. and with that, that's our broadcast on this wednesday night. thank you so very much for being here with us. >>> tonight -- >> we believe the president of the united states is engaged in a coverup. >> democratic leader accuses the president of a coverup. >> he is engaged in a coverup. and that could be an impeachable offense. >> donald trump has his richard nixon moment. >> i don't do coverups. >> tonight, why the president threw a tantrum at white house. >> it was very, very, very strange. >> why more democrats are using the i word. >> you can imagine? >> why nancy pelosi it appealing to a higher power. >> i pray for the president. >> a federal judge says deutsche bank must hand donald trump's financial records to democrats. as the treasury sent tries to explain why he won't give congress trump's taxes. >> i have been advised i am not violating the law. >> the voters that could make or break 2020 democrats. >> if you want to win in iowa, you have to deal with

. >>> last thing before we go tonight, more than once during this time slot we have quoted carl bernsteinlways says republicans were the heroes of watergate and we have asked our guests from time to time who they see as a potential profile in courage emerging, who was out there right now. additionally, when it feels as if life is in a crisis it's always useful to ask wwwafd, which obviously stands for what would atticus finch do. since we can't ask him we came up with the man who plays him currently on broadway in the aaron sorkin production. jeff daniels was here today as a guest of nicolle wallace and what he said has received a lot of attention already because of how he said it. >> you look at the cowardice of the 15 or so republicans in the senate who are still quiet, not bob corker and jeff flake and who's the other one that went out the back door. that's not courage, that's not courage. that's making sure you've got a job somewhere after politics. courage is standing up and being a true patriot like we used to have way back in 1776 and all of that. who are the heroes going to be? is

the quote from carl bernstein endures, it's something for everybody to think about, republicans wereeroes of watergate. and with that, that's our broadcast on this wednesday night. thank you so very much for being here with us. >>> tonight -- >> we believe the president of the united states is engaged in a coverup. >> democratic leader accuses the president of a coverup. >> he is engaged in a coverup. and that could be an impeachable offense. >> donald trump has his richard nixon moment. >> i don't do coverups. >> tonight, why the president threw a tantrum at white house. >> it was very, very, very strange. >> why more democrats are using the i word. >> you can imagine? >> why nancy pelosi it appealing to a higher power.

. >> listen, marco, i often have john dean and carl bernstein on the show. and whenever i talk to them i am reminded that watergate unfolded over years. there were often lulls in the investigation followed by more revelations. it's a reminder that there's still so much that we don't know even though trump and his folks want this to move on. but there's still so much we don't know. >> right. and i think where we are at the moment is this impasse where quite frankly the white house is kind of gaining the upper hand. the house -- and when we talk about congress, we're really talking about one party in one house of congress is really pushing for more information. that's the democrats and the house of representatives. they are trying to get witnesses. they're trying to get particularly bob mueller up to testify. so far they're not having luck. and the white house is trying to kind of run out the clock here. slow roll this whole thing. so they don't get mueller and after several months people they hope forget about it. and so far they haven't been able to make the

the quote from carl bernstein endures. it's something for everybody to think about. that is our broadcast for this thursday night. thank you so much for being here with us. good night, from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. >>> good morning. happy to have you with us. today was the day that a larger dynamic finally suddenly became clear.

the quote from carl bernstein endures. it's something for everybody to think about. republicans were the heroes of watergate. that is our broadcast for this thursday night. thank you so much for being here with us. good night, from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. >>> good morning. happy to have you with us. today was the day that a larger dynamic finally suddenly became clear. but today i think was the culmination of something that started to happen a few days ago. a little bit under two weeks ago. the first crack in the dam is something that we saw just less than two weeks ago. it actually feels like a year ago now. but it was may 9th, which is less than two weeks ago, and that was the first one. that was when the president and the trump administration more broadly started losing these battles that they have been waging now for a while to try to lock down everything, to try to lock down every witness, every document, every source of information about the president, to lock down everything in the wake of the mueller investigation, to block anything from c