i think you knew that was coming. >> carl carlson was charged with second-degree murder. t, carl used a walker claiming old injuries were getting the best of him. his attorney said police co-horsed carl and the judge denied the defense notion to suppress and the trial was set for november 6th, 2013. all these years, mike carlson had misgivings about carl's behavior but after watching the interrogation video, his worst fear was cemented, his own brother was a killer and now, he had a new fear. >> as the trial approached, did you think that the evidence was overwhelming and that it was pretty clear carl was going to go away? >> i was probably more scared as the trial approached that it wasn't a slam dunk. >> coming up, a surprise inside and outside the courtroom. >> we've been waiting just about 24 years now for some closure. >> now, a haunting new question. had carl carlson killed before? >> telling me about the fire with your first wife. >>> in the winter of 2012 as the seneca county district attorney was preparing to prosecute carl carlson for the murder of his son levi,