amy: that's robert tarver, the attorney for carl dorsey's family. democracy now! e to him over the weekend. we also spoke to nyeem dorsey-bey, who descbed what it was like to lose him. >> he always tried to get everyone together for family functions. he would try to get everybody together. we have to enjoy ourselves while we have that time to do it most of carl was a very strong family structed brother. there is no more i can say about that was welloved. he washe oldest brother. d the second oldest. i'm gointo get emotional because -- i'm so sorry. i'm sorry. amy: for more, we are joined by two guests. in newark, new jersey, madinah person is the sister of carl dorsey, the unarmed black man killed by an undercover newark police detective on january 1, 2021. in new york city is larry hamm, chair of the people's organization for progress. welcome to democracy now! larry, if you can start off by talking about the whole case and the protest that you been demanding cash holding demanding answers? >> as you know, amy, and thank you for inviting me on this morning, carl d