please welcome carl edgar blake. [cheers and applause] thank you. about ten minutes. ♪ thanks so much for coming on. all right, mr. blake. you are the first pig farmer i've ever had on my show cofnlt great laitions. >> thank you very much. >> stephen: the reason we have you on is not just because you are a pig farmer but you are a pig farmer in a unique way. you used to be a -- you write code, you created computer portholes for companies and cities. are computer programmers so filthy that you decided to work with hogs to improve your living conditions? why did you go to hog farming? >> i've been doing computer work for so long, and there came a time when there wasn't any more computer work in iowa. >> stephen: was there ever a ton? >> actually there was. kept me busy a long time. >> stephen: all right. you created a -- >> iowa. >> stephen: how did you come up with this pig? it's winning contests. >> we tried to make a better pig. i did a lot of research on the tber internet. i found out in 182 a king in germany created the pig that won four world's f