tony papa and carl hart, welcome to democracy now! atl hart, first responder jeff sessions is doing come this escalation of the war on drugs in the united states. >> well, let's just be clear. i mean, one of the things -- we heard outrage about what jeff sessions is doing. let's be clear, everybody knows that the war on drugs as it has been fought since the 1980's has had a disproportionate negative impact on specific communities. black communities, latino communities. everyone knows that. what jeff sessions is doing is advocatingor he is being engaged in racial discrimination. so let's call jeff sessions what he is. jeff sessions is a racist if he takes on this action. it is clear. we know it, so let's stop lying around with it. anthony papa, what is your understanding of what the attorney general is calling for right now? ericy, i agree with holder, this is totally dumb on crime. to go back to a failed proven toicy and two and the -- and tell prosecutors to convict people at the harshest possible sentence is totally wrong will stop m

amy: i want to go back to carl hart.ttorney general jeff sessions has released this memo that tells justice department prosecutors to pursue the most serious charges for drug offenses. so explain exactly how this changes policy and what it will mean. >> what it means is that -- as you know, under eric holder -- eric holder has suggested or his memo said that we should not -- should not engage in the mandatory minimums. he gave judges flexibility, whereas jeff sessions is in courage and the judges to go back to mandatory minimum. that means people will get harsher sentences for drug-related violations. ast that means ultimately papa i said, we all know the drug war did not work. that is not entirely true because the drug or did work for certain segments of our population. and that is where the crux of this policy really needs to be interrogated. it allows -- jeff sessions is allowing or using drug policy to separate the people who we like from the people who we don't like. and it provides a way to go after those people we

bush, anne marie hart, a former obama state spokesperson. carl -- what do you make of all this. these two bombshell reports and add on news that james comey will be testifying in this open session sometime after memorial day? >> first of all, while disagreement with john roberts who said "the washington post" story did not echo what the two british newspapers did and suggest it's jared kushner. i disagree with him. the only white house official, current white house official, who is named in "the washington post" article is jared kushner. they didn't say he was the subject of person of interest, but they used his name. let's be clear about this, though. person of interest in investigation like this means it's somebody that the fbi wants to talk to. there is a big difference and a long distance between that and being the subject of an investigation. and an even bigger distance to be the target of the investigation. i think "the washington post" story is a little bit overblown. of course they are going to talk to kushner. he talked with officials, the russian bank connected to the