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carl higbie, always a pleasure to talk to you. thank you very much. trump is back in his native new york. some protesters lining the streets to be among those welcoming in the home. the president is set to speak aboard the uss intrepid any moment. that is where our chief white house correspondent john roberts' tonight. good evening, john. >> martha, good evening to you by the president should be taking the stage at the uss intrepid. the dinner commemorating the 75th anniversary of the battle of the coral sea, which was a joint u.s. australian military endeavor, that blocked the japanese expansion into the south pacific. the president, having a bilateral meeting right now with the australian prime minister malcom turnbull. remember on the 28th of january, there was a little bit of a tense conversation between the two leaders when the president said he did not like this idea that president obama had kind of deals with president turnbull to take some refugees that had been taken on the islands by the australians. he called it a done deal on the internet.

liz: cnn host blasting former navy seal carl higbie.ormer trump campaign coo, jeff, awol here in all this coverage is back in january county f.b.i. cleared michael flynn and the said calls with the russian ambassador, nothing illicit, didn't find anything. >> that's exactly right. this whole russian narrative that they are pushing is nothing more than something made up by the clinton campaign. it's in the book "shattered." i was the coo of the campaign. i knew everything that went none that campaign. there was no coordination with the russians whatsoever. we won because we had a superior candidate and superior message and donald trump worked harder than hillary clinton. it wasn't the russians who kept hillary from campaigning. liz: it's so wrong to mislead voters. these reporters are so quick to get the noose without evidence. it feels like it's the same takedown. >> the so-called anonymous sources report everything wrong. "the washington post" said there was an anonymous source that said the f.b.i. was underfund in the investigation. t

here to discuss, carl higbie.d there's no evidence that donald trump was in contact with the russians, even coming into the hearing senators like dianne feinstein saying the same exact thing, and yet you know that's not going to be the headlines. >> it's so difficult to know what to believe about this. we heard pretty much what you, i think, expected to hear today which is, as trump said, mostly what we already knew about this situation. but at the same time, james clapper is somebody who has sat there in front of congress before and literally lied to the faces of members of the u.s. senate. so it's difficult, honestly, to know what to believe from him. the sally yates situation, obviously, trump has his opinions there. this is something where the media has taken the story and run one direction with it. the truth is somewhere, i think, in between what trump wants it to be and what you'll probably read in some of those headlines tomorrow. charles: no doubt something of a witch hunt, and it feels like when they star

there is a guy on there called carl higbie, a former seal, how to mount here before.s trying to make the point to the panel that anonymous sources are not always right. we should be skeptical about that. here is how the anchor responded on that show. watch this. >> two former officials knowledgeable of the situation confirmed for cn on the main points of the story. two former officials, i'll tell you what, come on, name those people, then, we'll have something to talk about. >> one, we protect sources, two, sinatra cnn, "the washington post," "new york times," "wall street journal," cnn, abc -- >> who are the sources? >> carl. >> who are the sources? >> they are hiding behind this anonymity. >> please! you are going to attack sources! >> you are saying mcmaster is lying? >> i'm not saying mcmaster is lying! >> that is his opinion. >> you cannot attack the stellar reporters on cnn! >> tucker: we don't know if she bit him in a commercial break which he was moving into that direction. [laughs] what struck me, whatever you think of carl higbie's views, he is raising the p

joining us, carl higby, former navy s.e.a.l.rump supporter who ran for a congressional seat in 2014. you're an outspoken, well spoke. when it comes to this allegation, if true, what do you make of it? >> first of all, is it illegal? no. is there proof of it? no. you think our government communicates in the media and public for everything we do? absolutely not. there is an absolute need for back channel with every channel. barack obama said he was caught on a hot mike saying he would have more flexibility. that wasn't supposed to go public. all the media generated this native that the american people need to know absolutely everything. wars are overted because of back channel. >> when it comes to espionage which is illegal. this would be illegal treasonous, espionage behavior because of the fact that the president was going to levy more sanctions on russia for the 16 intelligence agencies that all agree they interfered in our election, and this isn't a problem? we already have back channel ways to communicate with russia if we wa

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this and then was it katy boudin the other day went ballistic on carl higbie saying they should checkre at cnn. they are start tog meltdown. >> greg: i got a new name for him. anderson pooper. >> dana: well when you got to go, you got to government its would defensible. >> kimberly: what was happened. >> juan: we're out of control. >> kimberly: turned into south park and bevoice and butt head. >> greg: the conversation has changed. let's be honest in the last 18 months. donald trump introduced the construction worker site way of communicating. it's how he beat everybody. and now everybody is kind of learning it everybody is imitating. that didn't work. >> jesse: anderson cooper is a vanderbilt. he doesn't speak like that. cnn has been defending barack obama taking dumps for 8 years. so, come on. >> dana: you can definitely get away with that. >> kimberly: take it to a new low. >> juan: to me, he is playing to democrats far left, don't like trump. don't want to hear a defense of trump. but, boy, that's pretty low. >> dana: what would you expect from that guest? that guest has been. >>

i think you had katie bodine the other day went ballistic on carl higbie saying they should check theto melt down it seems like. >> i've got a new name for him, anderson pooper. >> when you gotta go, you gotta go. it would be defensible. >> what has happened here? >> we're out of control. >> it's turned into south park. >> think about it. this the conversation has changed let's be honest in the last quan months. - - . introduced the construction worker side way of communicating, it's how he beat everybody and now everybody's kind of learning imitating. sometimes it doesn't work. like that probably didn't work. >> because andersonim cooper's a vanderbilt. he doesn't sell that, he doesn't speak that. cnn's been defending barack obama taking dumps for eight years. so i mean come on. >> i don't know about that. >> you can definitely get away you're no vanderbilt. >> taking it to a new low. >> you know what, k just, i mea, to me he's playing to democrats, far left, don't like the president, don't want to hear defense of him, but boy, that's pretty low. >> what would you expect from that gu

the author of enemies foreign and domestic a seal's story carl higbie. and imam were concerned. apparently a recruiter had been operating out of this area and bringing in a lot of disaffected young people from this neighborhood. why wasn't it caught? >> i'm the first person to hit the islamic community of policing their own. they did. they told authorities many times this is a problem. the mosque had recruiters. people were doing suspicious things around them and the authorities in the u.k. did nothing. we've seen this time and time again. in america you are protected by certain liberties. they don't have the same constitution as us. they have 3500 people under surveillance that are considered threats. why are these people still in the country? they brought this on themselves in the u.k. if they don't do something about it, it will be real bad. >> shannon: this young man was born there. his parents came as refugees trying to escape libya. but they were going to -- >> bill: we helped them. they come here and now he is radicalized against the very people t

ainsley: carl higbie who you know, is he a guest on our show quite often, former navy seal.n one of the anchors over. this watch. this two former officials knowledgeable of the situation confirmed to cnn. two former officials came out, name those people and then we have something to talk about. >> one protect sources. two, it's not just cnn. it's "the washington post." "new york times," "wall street journal." cnn. >> who? yeah but who. >> abc. >> who are the sources? >> carl? >> who are the sources? oh because they are hiding behind anonymity. >> paul, please, do not even start with me. you are going to attack sources? that is ridiculous. >> so you think mcmaster is lying. >i'm not saying mcmaster is lying. >> he didn't answer the question. but that's his opinion. >> you cannot attack. >> do not attack the stellar reporters of cnn. brian: it's his opinion that mac master was there he was the only one in the room with intelligence back ground. ainsley: he did answer the question. the reporter said general mcmaster did the president release classified information to the russia