joining me now from washington carl hulse of the "new york times" his story today looks at the senator's fate in the effort to adopt gun control measures. he looked at the killing and the business and politics of selling guns i'm pleased to have both of them on this program. let me begin with you carl what has happened so far legislativively. give me a sense what happened so far this week and what might happen in the rest of the week. >> well as you said, the senate voted down these four proposals yesterday. it was fairly predictable even though everyone in the senate and probably most americans would agree that people on terror watch lists shouldn't buy guns, be able to buy guns. nothing is easiest i ohio in wa. there's a lot of -- ohio in washington. there's a lot of politics at play here. it didn't go anywhere. >> it was sort of an embarrassing defeat. everybody walked out of the senate last night feeling a bit meteomortified they couldn't do anything. >> rose: mortified because they succumbed to lobbying or mortified for what reason. >> i think it seems like such a straightforward pr

joining me now from washington, carl hulse from the new york times.snos writes for the new yorker. his article looks at the business and politics of selling guns. i am pleased to have both of them on this program. what has happened so far? give me a sense of what has happened. guest: as you said the senate voted down these proposals yesterday. .t was fairly predictable even though everyone in the senate and most americans would agree people on terror watchlist shouldn't buy guns, nothing is easy in washington. there is a lot of politics at play. democrat it's best immigrants voted for their proposal, republicans whatever theirs. >> it was an embarrassing defeat. everyone walked out feelg a bit mortified they couldn't do anything. charlie: mortified because they have so come to lobbying? it seems like such a straightforward proposition. you shouldn't be able to go in and easily buy a gun. even the most conservative able toay we should be get together on this, and they could not. i think that is weighing on people's minds. charlie: why could they not ge

joining me now from washington, carl hulse from the new york times.tory today looked at the hurdles in order to adopt gun control measures. evan osnos writes for the new yorker. his article, called making a killing looks at the business , and politics of selling guns. i am pleased to have both of them on this program. let me begin with you, carl? give me a sense of what has happened so far. what might happen for the rest of the week as well. carl: as you said the senate , voted down these proposals yesterday. it was fairly predictable. even though everyone in the senate and probably most americans would agree people on terror watch lists shouldn't buy guns, nothing is easy in washington. there is a lot of politics at play here. so democrats voted, republicans voted for theirs, didn't go anywhere. charlie: what happened? karl: it was an embarrassing defeat. everyone walked out feeling a bit mortified they couldn't do anything. charlie: mortified because they because they have succumb to lobbying? carl: it seems like such a straightforward proposition.