>>> before the break we introduced you to pastor carl lentz.k concert at times. hillsong nyc which he founded in the heart of new york is drawing an unlikely flock, the young and trendy and celebrities as well. the church's balance sheet is exploding. here's part two of the report. >> reporter: hillsong church has a band with 13 million albums sold. >> reporter: some newspapers have pegged the church's worth at 50 million to $100 million. are those numbers right? >> it would be in the ballpark. it's tiny compared with the catholic church. >> reporter: tithing is encouraged. credit cards accepted. some people look at it they live in a cool neighborhood, nice place on the river. >> if you go down that road you cannot be poor enough for some people but we are never going to cater to that mind set of people telling us how to live. >> reporter: as pastor carl lentz's star rises, celebrities gatherer around him. >> the goal of the church is from the nameless to the famous. we should have celebrities. we believe. we're trying to reach everybody. >> re

. ♪ and some new yorkers can't seem to get enough of their unlikely pastor, carl lentz. >>. ♪ i takemore like a rock star than the head of a rock star church. >> the lord is my shepherd and i lack nothing. one, two, three! >> reporter: this 35-year-old basketball fanatic, a walk-on at nc state who calls himself the unofficial chaplain for the new york nicks, is a pastor, the lead pastor of a church, hillsong nyc. >> if you ran from church your whole life because you didn't like the organization, we meet in the club and not going to sing the song you're used to hearing and not going to preach a message you're used to hear. you can be religious about being a car thief, you can be religious criminal, but we have a relationship with god. i will dwell in the house of the lord forever. come on somebody, that is worth a pentecostal shout down. >> reporter: this is the american branch of the australian megachurch hillsong which boasts some 75,000 members in 12 countries. lentz and his wife, laura, started hillsong nyc three years ago after meeting at the chump's bible college in sydney. >> i

and some new yorkers can't seem to get enough of their unlikely pastor, carl lentz. >> i will not sayhe valley of the shadow of death, i take a look at my life, i realize it's sudden death. >> reporter: with the leather jacket and body ink, karl looks more like a rock star than the head of a pentecostal church. >> the lord is my shepherd and i lack nothing. on three, one, two, three. >> reporter: this 35-year-old basketball fanatic, a walk-on at nc state, calling himself the unofficial chaplain for the new york knicks, is a pastor. the lead pastor of a church, hill song nyc. >> you ran from church your whole life you didn't like the organization, we meet in a club and not going to sing the songs you're used to and preach a message you think you'll hear. >> you take issue when people call this religion. >> i do. you can be religious about being a car thief. you can be religious, criminal. but we have a relationship with god. i will dwell in the house of the lord forever. come on, somebody. that is worth a pentecostal shoutdown. >> reporter: this is the american branch of the australian

. >> reporter: as the pastor carl lentz rises, he has celebrities that surround him. >> the goal of ours. our church should have celebrities, we believe, because we're trying to reach everybody. >> reporter: justin bieber tweeted, i broke down today after one of lentz's sermons. we wanted to know where lentz falls on social issues and politics. >> my thing is that jesus transcends politics. >> reporter: some of his positions are clearer than others. don't get drunk, no sex before marriage. our gay men and women allowed in the church? >> yes, we have a lot of gay men and women in the church and i hope we always do. >> it's not our place to tell anyone how to live. that's their journey. >> reporter: every article that i've read about you guys says he declined to discuss gay marriage. >> yes. it's a misquote because i do discuss it, just not the way people want me to. when it comes to homosexuality, i refuse to let another human being or a media moment dictate how we approach it. jesus was in the thick of an era where homosexuality, just like it is today, was widely prevalent. and i'm stil

here with us is the pastor of hillsong church, carl lentz. good morning, thank you for joining us. come to. >> if you make it through the parade, yes, we have a 10:00 a.m. service that we'll be at, yeah. >> there are strobe lights and people are wearing skinny jeans and have cool haircuts and all that. what is it, do you think, is bringing people in and bringing people to christ? >> well, i don't know. i think our church is kind of a place where we are trying to let people know you come as you are. so you have people who are not in skinny jeans, don't have tattoos and don't look like a new yorker, but the whole point is to come as you are. and that's who jesus is and what our faith is about. so it will make sense to have church where you recognize it in new york, we have lights and stuff, but a place everyone can come. >> the principles you stand on, are they different than your average church? >> no. i mean, i don't know every average church, i can't speak on that behalf, but there are some things different. if you were born in an old school church where you have to look a certain