senators john mccain, carl levin and jack reed, even joint chiefs chairman admiral mike mullen. >> what was the intent? were there any regulations violated? if there was, there has to be suitable punishment for violations. >> but when holmes objected he was shocked by the response from one commander. >> he screamed at me literally. he screamed at me in front of witnesses and said if i tell you to do it, it's not illegal anymore. it was just crazy. it was surreal. >> reporter: intelligence experts agree. >> you've got people trained in propaganda whose job it is to bamboozle the enemy apparently attempting to bamboozle senators. >> reporter: pentagon officials say it's not clear there was ever any intent to manipulate anyone. to make sure, general david petraeus has ordered a three-star general to conduct a full investigation. jim miklaszewski, nbc news, the pentagon. >>> big story out of texas tonight. a college student from saudi arabia under arrest, accused of planning to build and set off bombs in terrorist attacks around the united states. the fbi says this case broke open only beca

deal and we saw this and we covered this here on the kaiser report a few months ago where senator carl levin was questioning goldman sachs including blankfein and he was asking about e-mails in which they also use the same word of this excrement this foul word this four letter word for their deals that they were snowing really selling to their clients did anything ever come of that were they ever prosecuted were they ever charged with fraud no it was all just like their sort of language but i thought perhaps because there is so much of this. being sold and packaged by banks perhaps we could reclassify this as manufacturing and then they could be the world's largest dealer of agric fertilizer for example around the world fickle securities fickle back securities well basically when you put leslie jamie diamond j.p. morgan lloyd blankfein of goldman sachs into a room that basically they crap in each other in their underwear then they they rip that out and then they sell to each other for a fee and then when it turns out that what they sold which was the basis for the entire collateral of the am

the first one is carl levin, the chairman of the armed services committee. >> how many afghan troopsre there currently in kandahar, and about how many afghan troops do we expect will be there in september? >> mr. chairman, i will be happy to get that for you for the record. if i could rather just provide the overview of what it is that we are trying to accomplish in that area, and you certainly touched on the importance of getting the afghans in the league. we had a video teleconference with general mcchrystal this morning. others participated in that, and in that, he described, for example, the brigade going into the districts around kandahar, so they can do what president karzai wanted, as he announced, with the 500 or so local leaders there in discussing what is coming to kandahar province, which is that afghan forces leads wherever possible. >> what is with that? >> levin has for a long time made a big deal about the afghan security forces carrying a bigger load. he asked the question, how many of them are going to participate in this major operation in kandahar, and incredibly,

there was an amendment to stop the increase in the f-22 spending that he and senator carl levin democrat of michigan draw together. and this is what he said about the amendment. this amendment is probably the most impact amendment i have seen in almost any issue much less the issue of defense. baliles them to whether we are going to continue the business as usual of once the weapon system gets into the production it never dies or whether we are going to take the necessary steps to reform the acquisition process in this country. we can't in did according to progress from president dwight d. eisenhower's famous military industrial complex speech about the unwarranted influence of the arms lobby and the need for the alert citizenry to keep it in its rightful place. mccain suggested the only addition he would make to the speech was to replace the military industrial complex with military industrial in the rules congress and something unnecessary weapons systems like the f-22. so that was the sort of flavor of the debate, and i guess the question is if they have all this power why did they lo

there was an amendment to stop the increase in f-22 spending that he and senator carl levin of michigan brought together. this is what he said about the amendment. this amendment is the most impact fully manned and i have seen on any issue but the issue of the fence. it boils down to whether we're going to continue business as usual of once the weapons system gets into full production it never dies or whether we are going to take the necessary steps to reform the acquisition process in this country. he ended if quoting two letters from the white guys in our absences from public speech about the unwarranted influence of the arms lobby and the need for an alert and knowledgeable citizenry to keep it in its rightful place. mccain suggested the only addition to the speech would be to replace military industrial complex with military-industrial congressional complex in recognition of the role of congress in funding unnecessary weapons systems like the f-22. that was the flavor of the debate. the question is if they have all this power why did they lose? there are a couple reasons. first, sec

but is it what it does, good heart, works tirelessly on behalf of the state, your senior senator carl levinis partner in the senate could not be here because she's actually leading a democratic conference retreat. she's been fighting for manufacturing, broadband, a lot of things that we're talking about today. i want to acknowledge that the coup deeply cares about the work we do appear. (cheering & applause) i want to think the great hospitality of the mayor, showing the around town. thank you, so much. >> (cheering & applause) the president of northern michigan university is here. (cheering & applause) >> and all of your here. (laughter) >> you guys are pretty special. (cheering & applause) before i begin, does want to say, we are following today's events in egypt very closely. we will have more to say as this plays out. but, what is absolutely clear is we are witnessing history unfold. it is a moment of transformation, that is taking place because the people of egypt are calling for change. they have turned out in extraordinary numbers representing all ages, all walks of life. but, it is

what he does, but good at heart and works tire leslie on the state, your senior senator, karl -- carl levin is here. [applause] his partner in the senate could not be here because she's leading a democratic caucus retreat, but she's been fighting for manufacturing, for broadband, for a lot of things we're talking about here today. i want toage -- i want to acknowledge debbie for all the work here. [applause] i want to thank the mayor who has been showing me around town. thank you so much. [applause] the president of northern michigan university, dr. wes wong is here. [applause] and all of you are here. [laughter] and you guys are pretty special. absolutely. before i begin, i just want to say that we are following today's events in egypt very closely, and we'll have more to say as this plays out, but what is absolutely clear is that we are witnessing history unfold. it's a moment of transformation that's taking place because the people of egypt are calling for change. they've turned out in extraordinary numbers representing all ages and all walks of life, but it's young people who have been

. >> recently said senator carl levin said he would like to see an even larger afghan national army than what is planned for in hopes that that would speed up the return of u.s. troops. at roughly the same time, a gao study came out and so that the current number of trainers that are in afghanistan to train afghan security forces is not enough. that is creating questions as to whether or not once we leave, they will still be able to continue the mission of protecting that country. what are your reactions to those two question marks first, senator levin's idea of a larger army, and gao's criticism of the current training for the current goals? >> i think that on the second part, the training has increased in effectiveness and it is very clear. so when we get the units out of the training base, they're much better prepared than they ever have been in the past. we will also continue to press to get more trainers to do that more effectively. but the other phenomenon that is occurring at the same time is that they're now more afghan trainers, and they're going through ntm-a and cstc-a the sam

. >> senator carl levin said he would like to see an even larger afghan national army and hoped that that would speed the return of u.s. troops. at the same time, a study came out that said the current number of trainers in afghanistan training security forces is not enough, and that is creating questions as to whether or not, once we leave, they will continue to be able to protect their country. what are your reactions to get the idea of a larger armor, and the gao criticism? >> on the second part, the training has increased in effectiveness and is very clear. when we get the units out of the training base, they are much better prepared than they ever have been in the past. we will also, of course, press to get more trainers to do that more effectively. but the other phenomena occurring at the same time is that there are now more afghan trainers. they are going through the same transition process. we are also pressing the afghans to get more trainers, and the combined effort, again, at the effects you can see on the ground. that has continued to improve. >> can you speak about the l

. >> recently said senator carl levin said he would like to see an even larger afghan national army than what is planned for in hopes that that would speed up the return of u.s. troops. at roughly the same time, a gao study came out and so that the current number of trainers that are in afghanistan to train afghan security forces is not enough. that is creating questions as to whether or not once we leave, they will still be able to continue the mission of protecting that country. what are your reactions to those two question marks first, senator levin's idea of a larger army, and gao's criticism of the current training for the current goals? >> i think that on the second part, the training has increased in effectiveness and it is very clear. so when we get the units out of the training base, they're much better prepared than they ever have been in the past. we will also continue to press to get more trainers to do that more effectively. but the other phenomenon that is occurring at the same time is that they're now more afghan trainers, and they're going through ntm-a and cstc-a the sam