human nature itself which is what all of the great collectivist thinkers thought, whether it was carl marx or lennon or hitler, that they could manipulate human nature in such a way as to make it serve some ideological end rather than meditating on the "is," the given of what we are, and derive from that truth the thought, that is, what we shouldbe, what we can be in our nature. now, from my perspective, the best way to approach this fill philosophically is through the christian lens. as i say, if others have other reflections on this, i just think that the scriptures conform to our natural reason about these things, that line in the founding documents that speak about nature and nature's god. precisely the tradition that goes back through the history of christianity, into judaism, even into the ancient world, the romans and the greeks. it's a truth that wise people have thought about over the years, because we understand, especially in an incredibly technologically sophisticated moment that we are all experiencing and honestly, probably even being very annoyed by often. we understand that