. >> sounds like carl rove wants to know, sounds like the republican establishment is getting very nervousout how michele bachmann is rocketing up in these polls. they want to stop her, don't they? >> right, this is part of a bigger issue. not so much she suffers migraines, it's she is number two in nbc news, "the wall street journal" poll, that she has been doing so well since she became more focussed, more determined and driven to listen to what he tells her to do, and succeed at it. she could very well win the iowa caucuses. it's where she was born, waterloo iowa, she represents minnesota, right next door. why you showed former governor, tim pawlenty, as long as michele bachmann is number two in the polls, as long as she's nipping at mitt romney's heels, there's noerr for tim pawlenty, if he doesn't win iowa, where does he win? >> it always shows the weakness of the guy who's been thought of as the front runner, romney. and it doesn't strike me that rove and company are particularly out to protect romney, they just want bachmann out of this race. she's the distraction, she's the one the