and they, little did i know, forwarded my application to carl sagan's office, and carl sagan wrote a personal letter to me. >> oh, my god. >> hand signed. >> hinojosa: you get it in the mail? >> in the mail. i said, "carl sagan? is that the same guy who's on the tonight show and the..." i said, "oh, couldn't be." and i looked, i rubbed my eyes, and there it was. and he invited me to cornell to help me decide whether i would ultimately attend there. and i said, "is he joking, is he serious?" and so i, you know, called to make arrangements, and yes, he met me out front of his building, out of his lab, invited me up, chatted about the universe. he reached back, pulled out one of his books. i thought that was the coolest thing. he didn't have to look. he pulled back the book, it was the book he wrote, signed it to me. and this is cornell university in the winter, so, like, it began to snow that afternoon. and he drove me back to the bus station, because i took the bus up there from new york city. and saw that the snow was getting thicker, and he jotted down his home phone on a piece of p

space program throughout my honored told be most cite the good work of jim hansen , neil the grass, carl sagan, they have provided me and my community healthy role models. what we are doing today with space, it has been a great the changesidering of climate we are experiencing. nasa has a post of sunlight currently orbiting and onntaining a constant vigil the record of whether change. -- weather change. this will be critically important to us in the future and present. unfortunately, politically, it is not happening, we have not collected people with the help necessary to lead us into our future. supportneed that nasa in an effort to change our industrial base. we have to go to a nonfossil fuel energy system which will require information from space sunlight -- satellites. next, in new york, says he is not sure. caller: good morning, pedro and good morning to your viewers. i send my love to all of use -- yous. how will they pay, i know they will cut medicare, social security, medicare. when i was young space exploration, but you know, now, you know, i realize we have so many problems on the ea

the odds of at least one of them having life are pretty high, which would make the late great carl sagan delighted. but we use water as like the baseline for that argument, don't we? >> yeah. because life as we know it -- we haven't found an example of life on earth that water. so we're starting with that. we're starting with what we know. you know, it's possible with further exploration of the solar system or planets like, this we may find capables of life that doesn't need water. you start with what you know. >> so when you hear this and the fact that i guess, like you say, it was the matter of turning a telescope on, these are different images that we're getting 40 light year away. so what images they might have from us is from 40 years ago, which 40 years ago at this time, jimmy carter was president. i know later in the summer. a particular movie debuted called star wars. coincidental or not? >> i think we need to run that by nasa, neil. you may be on to something. >> neil: many people say i'm on something. i just thought i would pass that along. you can't make it up. thanks very muc