. >> carl unger is home with four bullet wounds, and he's talking to news4 about the man he says smiled before shooting him and killing his friend. eulalio tordil was indicted today on eight counts, and that includes two charges of first-degree murder. shomari stone is live at montgomery mall with an interview you'll only see on news4. >> reporter: wendy and doreen, carl unger tells us it happened so fast, at one point he's trying to help a woman who was screami ground thinking he's going to die. >> i did feel bad, the whole situation. >> reporter: tonight, carl unger speaks about the horror he experienced at westfield montgomery mall in bethesda, maryland, on may 6th. he tells me 62-year-old eulalio tordil seemed to enjoy shooting people. >> he looked dead at us and started smiling before he started shooting. >> reporter: it started when unger stopped at the mall for lunch with his friend, mike winffel. they heard a woman screaming in the parking lot. they say she was being carjacked by eulalio tordil, who was allegedly on the run after allegedly killing his estranged wife. >> he just