and carla robbins, the deputy ge editor of "the new york times." welcome to you both. >> thank you, martin. >> all right, afghanistan pageant let's begin there. the beginning of the week, general mcchrystal delivered a pretty terse kind of assessment of where things were. he said essentially the taliban hold the upper hand. i presume actually he was blatantly honest. but was he too honest? did he go too far. >> well you want your guy to be honest. we have the a-team in place now in afghanistan, and in fact, up the national security command chain. the real question is giving this difficult, difficult conflict, the best attention, the right resources, is it still possible to do anything significantly constructive and actually get somewhere, or are we just kicking the can down the road before ultimately withdrawing and leaving the thing in chaos? >> how many troops do we need? sort of a question here whether mcchrystal was going to ask for more troops know that the secretary of defense said, no. >> he said he had asked for if now. he said wasn't going