we also have secretary pache co, scott sanchez, the zoning administrator, laurence kornfield, carla short, with the department of urban forestry. at this time, mr. pacheco, if you could go over the guidelines? >> the board asks that you turn off all of your cell phones said they do not disturb the proceedings. please carry on all conversations in the hallway. each have seven minutes to present their cases and three minutes for a bottle. people affiliated with these parties must conclude their comments within the three-minute or seven-minute period. those not affiliated have up to three minutes each to address the board no rebuttal. to assist the board in the accurate presentation of minutes, members of the public wishing to speak on an item are asked but not required to submit a speaker card or a business card to board staff when you come up to the lectern. speaker cards and pans are available to the left side of the podium behind the board also welcomes your comments and questions. there are customer satisfaction forms on the left side of the podium, as well. if you of questions about a

we also have carla short with the department of public works. at this time, if you could please go over the meeting guidelines and to up the swearing and processed -- swearing in process. >> the board request that you turn off all phones, beepers, and pagers so they did not disrupt the meeting. appellants, permit holders, and it apart and responders have seven minutes each to present their cases and three minutes for rare bottle. people affiliated with these parties must include their comments with in these time frames. members of the public were not affiliated with the parties have up to three minutes each to address the board and no rebuttal. members of the public who wish to speak on an item i asked but not required to submit a speaker card or business card to board staff when you come up to the lectern. speaker cards and pans are available on the left side of the podium. we also welcome your comments and suggestions. there are survey forms on the podium as well. if you have questions about a rehearing or rules or hearing scheduled, please sp

carla shorts. we love her. supervisor chu: we are exploring in our own areas where, if you can put in a bench, it might be a place for people to gather. you have to convince people that it is worth putting in. there is an annual increase in fee, it becomes a hindrance for a lot of folks. >> it is $300 a year, which is not a lot of money, and not only do you have to install it, you have to maintain it. people graffiti on them, they carve in there, and they take plants. you need an infrastructure in place, which is why cbd is so great. >> with the street trees, you have that issue. some of the property owners were afraid of taken on the liability. cbd got a permit for the entire length of the district, and that allows them to plant trees and pay for the insurance, take on the liability. cbd's can do things on a street-wide level when property owners or businesses are concerned on an individual level, so they can allow more of a selective approach to this project which takes the stress off of the individual. >> a

rather than have the police sit here, carla short sit here, you know, various departments people sit here when we go throat issues that have to do with jurisdiction and regulations when these people are on the clock, and it is costing the city money. it does not seem to make sense to not have a rule that if you represent the city, you are going first. there are some that are here for the duration. there are some with multiple cases. commissioner hwang: i think it is costing the city money. commissioner garcia: the police are on overtime. vice president goh: did we not leave it to the discretion? is an article 3, section 5? -- is it? commissioner fung: to have it when a government official is here for four cases. commissioner garcia: even if there was one case. president peterson: commissioner garcia, there was a case a few months ago when there were pro bono people with mandarin chinese, and they were volunteers, so i think we make all efforts, but there are instances where -- commissioner fung: do you remember the temporary parking permit? that was the last case. president peterson: