but listening to carlee soto there. >> she was so moving. >> so powerful, so eloquent.is debate going to go? not just tomorrow, but my sense is, the optimism i have, and it's not a lot, but it's some, we're still talking about this, it's still leading the news three months after newtown. >> and if you count both suicides and homicides, 10,000 people have died since that shooting. and this will keep on happening. you know, i guess i'm a little bit optimistic. i see this -- there is no silver bullets here, as you know. there is silver buck shot. universal background checks are one of those silver buck shot. they will make a real difference. and that, i hope, will lay the ground work for other modest steps that over time can reduce the murders and can reduce the suicides, can limit gun access to some degree. >> good to see you. thanks for coming in. >>> next, i talk to an nra member whose sister was shot to death, and congressman mike thompson at the center of the capitol hill debate. >>> later, chicago store owners battling two armed men. >>> zina was a beautiful person w

carlee soto, sister of the victoria soto, who died shielding the children in her classroom. hid them in a closet, and then the man came in and shot her. erica lafferty, the daughter of dawn hochsprung, the brave principal of sandy hook elementary. she was in a meeting. she heard the first shots. ran into the hallway. she ideal at the gunman to stay back, and then lunged at him, and then finally, neil heslin, father of six-year-old jesse lewis, one of the students who was hiding in vicki soto's school. it must have been very difficult for you all this week, in light of this other story that was unfolding in boston. you must just-- your emotioning must have been almost out of control after what you'd been through even before this. >> it was unbelievable that we were talking to senators and their staff, and then we get news of this while talking to a senator staff member. and just freaking out like, our country's really doing this. people are still, like, so evil. >> schieffer: erica, what was your reaction to the events of this week? >> honestly tfelt like i was reliving the w

carlee soto, i'll leave it there.ith the president when you say i don't know how you guys do it. throwing yourself in the middle just months after mourning the loss of someone, mourning the loss of your sister. my condolences to you. i'm impressed with your bravery to do this. >> thank you very much. >>> this morning the president and first lady are on their way to boston as we speak where they will attend an interfaith service dedicated to the victims of the boston marathon companies. joining me now is chris jansing. we know it will be a packed auditorium. a lot of dignitaries are going to be there. republicans and democrats alike. >> i just made my way through the crowd. it's a huge line out there. this cathedral across the street holds about 2,000 people. officially the name of the interfaith service is healing our city but i think from what i've heard talking to people maybe the headline in the boston globe describes it even better. prayer service to be a defiance of terror because that's how people here feel. the