a 330 pilot, carlene petitte, and maria schiavo as well. what's your reaction les?ies have to celebrate 2015 in this regard if there is a celebration, of course. finding this whole airplane. seems for the information we are getting right now. there is a fair portion of it intact. what it says to me is -- there is a possibility that this -- this stall situation that we may have been talking about may have actually occurred. dave and i have been conferring. there was a potential turn it was found, 100 miles south of the last known position. so that seems, seems very interesting to me. still doesn't for me rule out the possibility of a mechanical issue. >> doesn't? why not? >> from the standpoint. they've had encountered any sort of icing similar to what i hate to go you know that direction because once again we are speculating. if they go in the direction of air france 447, with the pito tubes did get blocked by ice. they may have been dealing with a lot of erroneous instrumentation issues in trying to determine what was going on with the airplane. >> not getting the