carlina white when she was abducted from the hospital, 23 years ago before she started to realize thatething was wrong. that she wasn't who she was told she was by the people who were caring for her. that's the theme that we work with law enforcement and everyone at the national center is kmited to. we know that a case is not resolved until a child is actually found. and we're seeing more and more of them being found as survivors, like the three women tonight in cleveland. >> amanda berry who is just about to turn 17, she said in that 9-1-1 call, john, that she's been in the news for the last ten years. do you read anything into that? she seems at least aware that, john ryan, she seems aware that people were looking for her. that she had remained in the news? >> well, you know, these children, who, when they're taken, they're subjected to -- we don't know in this case, but typically, they are totally captivated by their abductors through fear, intimidation, violence, maybe not only threatening to harm them rngs but to harm their families. it doesn't mean that they're not aware or expos

carlina white when she was abducted from the hospital, 23 years ago before she started to realize thatething was wrong. that she wasn't who she was told she was by the people who were caring for her. so, you know, we're seeing these cases. the good news is, the message is we never give up hope. we heard that from some of the family members. that's the theme that we work with with law enforcement and everyone at the national center is committed to. because we know that a case is not resolved until a child is actually found. and we're seeing more and more of them being found as survivors, like the three women tonight in cleveland. >> amanda berry, who was just about to turn 17 when she was last seen riding in a vehicle with an unidentified driver after leaving her part-time shift at burger king. she said in that 911 call, john, that she's been in the news for the last ten years. do you read anything into that? the fact that she seems at least aware that -- john ryan, that she seems aware that people were looking for her? that she had remained in the news? >> well, you know, these childre