>> well, because, i saw today that carlos cabella from florida condemned this latest ad where they were saying democrats were looking the other way, or opening the borders so this terrible guy could come in, at least these what the chyrons were on the ad. it's completely and totally inappropriate. in the end we have to pick up the pieces after these campaigns. when your objective is to win -- there are ethical lines you should not cross. and i think there have been ethical lines that have been crossed. >> yeah, i don't think there are any lines -- >> somebody sent me -- >> i don't think there are any lines. >> somebody sent me -- look, chris, what is happening is wrong, it's repelling people, polarizing people, and i think another thing as well. i think that this kind of heated rhetoric isn't going to win elections. >> what if it wins in the midterms. trump's going to be even more of a hero? >> look, i have to tell you, i don't think this tactic is working. i live out here in a congressional district that is usually won overwhelmingly by republicans. raiser thin in a special election. y