i want to bring back carlos cabello and basil now. now, what you make of this? mayor doesn't even want donald trump to come. what are the chances that he even goes there, and is there any way that this helps donald trump? >> no, i don't think it helps donald trump at all, and if governor dewine is saying, don't show up, if others don't want him there. and especially because there is likely tension for him not lie, and then all it does is create an additional amount of chaos. and by the way, it energizes the vote against donald trump and republicans in a state that i am sure they don't want, but certainly would be beneficial to democrats. which again, is something they don't want. let me just say quickly, the point you raised about that interview, the german said, "yeah, i heard about another town, but wrong about springfield." so, he was wrong on the location, but not the overall issue. and you see how -- and just think about how extraordinary the lie has become and how rapidly it has spread. that, i think, is the real challenge for all of us, that we have got t