appreciate all of you, vaughn hillyard, carol lam and carlos curbelo.los, i've got more questions for you later on this hour about ron desantis. >>> the breaking news we referenced at the top of the hour, the shooter who killed 23 people at a texas walmart in 2019 has just been sentenced. he's got a heavy sentence to face right now. let's bring in nbc's guad venegas who's following this situation. talk about what was thrown at him and the reaction, guad. >> reporter: it's a sentence of 90 consecutive life sentences, very symbolic. this was a three-day sentencing hearing. we know that he pled guilty to the charges. it was a very emotional hearing. those who lost loved ones in the shooting were able to speak to the shooter in the courtroom, look at him directly in the eyes and were very emotional. a 13-year-old girl who lost her grandfather talked about what it was like being inside the store the day of the shooting, seeing her grandfather being killed. and accused shooter of rolling his eyes. living her life with a fear of going into public spaces. many

former republican congressman carlos curbelo of florida, and kurt bardella, democratic strategist. ys, former president trump and his attorneys are turning for potential federal indictments from special counsel jack smith's team relating to trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 january -- 2020 election, and the january 6th insurrection. there is also the possibility of state charges in georgia where a fulton county district attorney fani willis may charge trump for his efforts to interfere in the states election. amid the mounting legal woes, the washington post reports that trump's political group spread more than $40 million on legal costs in the first half of 2023 to defend trump, his advisors, and others. trump's gop challengers, challenger will hurd, raised the point on this morning on meet the press. this listen to this. >> donald trump, all he's doing is litigating a past election. when people start to learn that when you give money to donald trump, it's going to pay his lawyers, three out of $4 that -- is going to pay for his legal fees. people are starting -- even folks the

" washington bureau chief susan page, co-anchor only far nawaz and former florida congressman carlos curbelopushback from secretary buttigieg and chris christie. desantis seems focused on making the culture wars a priority. boy, is he all in on that? >> he is indeed all in. it's important to point out that this ad came out at the end of pride month which mr. desantis says shouldn't be a federally recognized month of celebration. now this is a central part of his republican push for the presidency. remember we're now at a point where it's several months away from any of the earliest votes being cast. but mr. desantis has consistently trailed president trump, even as donald trump faces federal indictment charges. he's doing everything he can to break through, to try to close the gap, in a largely come together primary field. he's doing that by running the the right of former president trump, leaning in to some of the culture war issues and specifically anti lgbtq issues. don't forget this is the governor who signed the so-called don't say gay law into action. in florida he signed a bill target

that's going to happen, no matter what happens to donald trump legally. >> former congressman carlos curbeloawaz, thank you for joining us. happy fourth of july. appreciate you taking the time today. >> thank you. >>> up next on "ana cabrera reports," thousands are now on strike. what they're asking for and how it could impact tourism at the height of summer. >>> and more fallout from the supreme court's affirmative action ruling with a new lawsuit challenging harvard's legacy admissions. what's being alleged next. admissions what's being alleged next. abdu. i was diagnosed with afib. the first inkling that something was wrong was i started to notice that i couldn't do things without losing my breath. i couldn't make it through the airport, and every like 20 or 30 yards i had to sit down and get my breath. every physical exertion seemed to exhaust me. and finally, i went to the hospital where i was diagnosed with afib. when i first noticed symptoms, which kept coming and going, i should have gone to the doctor and told them what was happening. instead, i tried to let it pass. if you experien

our saturday morning power political panel, my good friends here on said, former -- republican carlos curbelonbc news and political analyst, and joining me remotely -- fernando moment, msnbc political -- and democratic pollster. it's best for nantucket this want to give any more -- and share it with carlos. to set what it is? >> he's not here to push me around today. i appreciate that. >> carlos, i want to start with you. completely disregarding the 14th amendment, you've got trump, you've got desantis, and now, you have it. i want to get his name right because you don't want to be rude, vet ramah swami, now saying, two -- with birthright citizenship! we are just not going to let that happen anymore. but here's the hypocrisy. vivek ramos wants parents were immigrants. he said beneficiary of it. so, i want to ask it citizenship for me but not for the anymore? >> yeah, so totally incoherent and unconstitutional proposal and this dates back to 2018. by the way there's all these political lessons that republicans refuse to learn ahead of the 2018 election, donald trump thought it would be a good

joining us now, former republican congressman, carlos curbelo, and politico white house correspondents actually want their candidates to go after their lgbtq community? >> look, symone, there is a segment of the republican primary electorate that finds this in some way attractive, and can get behind this. it is a minority of the republican electorate, but desantis is clearly trying to do everything possible to catch up with donald trump. now, at the end of the day, it's wrong, it's very divisive, and you know, donald trump for all of his flaws, i can tell you from personal conversations with him, he doesn't have anything against the lgbt community, he believes inequality. and for ron desantis to attack him on this, when there is so many issues to attack trump on is just a shame. politically, the problem is that in a general election, swing voters in swing states and swing districts outright reject this kind of rhetoric, this kind of divisiveness, this kind of speech. so, while governor desantis might be try to do himself a favor in this primary, pick up votes wherever he can, he is re

also with us, former republican congressman from florida, carlos curbelo and former democratic congressmanrose. ally, take us behind the numbers of the desantis campaign, if you will. >> reporter: this is not the first time we've seen the desantis team sort of playing defense. i will tell you we're in a pretty quiet room here. i'll do my best golf whisper as i give this assessment. when you talk to desantis allies, they'll tell you they feel good about what they brought in in the second quarter. such a high burn rate to the fact they're offloading about a dozen or so mid-level staffers, it's notable especially as we're starting to see donors question whether or not this is the campaign they thought it was going to be at the outset. several of them speaking to our colleagues at nbc news saying this campaign just hasn't caught fire in the way that they thought that it would. you see that not just in the way this fund-raising shook out with desantis maxing out on so many donors so early on in the process. but also in the way he's actually having to start offloading staffers as he's not gainin

for president biden's 2020 presidential election and former republican congressman from florida carlos curbelo this thing through. a six-week abortion ban with some exceptions. even the former president of the united states kind of faltering on the stance on abortion, not necessarily wanting to push restrictions to the nth degree, it seems. maybe because of public sentiment. how is it when looking at states across the country, right, outright bans, compare that to public sentiment, which the majority of americans believe women should have access to abortion. >> you know, it is interesting that republicans are not paying attention to how voters showed up in the past several elections and pushing against the egregious abortion bans. in iowa alone, six in ten iowans and seven in ten women in iowa believe abortion should be legal in almost all cases. the republican party has to actually grapple with the fact that these states are ramming through these deeply unpopular pieces of legislation when you see the national leaders like donald trump and some people trying to run for president trying to toe