the third one, the only non- chilean, carlos manani. he is a libyan and we hear that the president will be flying here and possibly taking him back on the presidential jet if doctors give him the ok. >> many thanks indeed for that. earlier, the chalet and mining minister held a press conference, explaining details of the rescue. >> the which can be controlled. we have programmed a speed of 1 meter per hour -- excuse me, 1 meter per second, which would be the total time for the trip, going down by gravity, you are not pulling the cage. it will be a slow live. taking 25 minutes, more or less, at least 25 to 30 minutes. they are working on their own things, for paring the moving, helping us with a platform that needs to be built into the tunnel, working with communications people, giving us lines to establish television and video to where the phoenix will land. so, they have been very busy. >> [inaudible] >> any rescue process has a risk. we could have mistakes in the process. we have trained a lot and taken into consideration everything t