if you think about john carlos and tommy smith in the '68 olympics and you think about some of our great leaders in jackie robinson and arthur ashe. we have a history of letting sports transcend. >> they had to go through a lot. >> they had to go through a lot, but those examples are shoulders we're standing on. >> what did you experience? people in the l.a. community are saying they weren't surprised. there was the settlement on the fair housing issue. that he had a record here, an unfortunate record of race -- racism that people knew about but tolerated. >>in 1988 i got traded to the suns. in that month the martin luther king holiday got rescinded. i was thinking where did i land? who takes a holiday away are from king, for crying out loud? the owner of the team stepped up and this is an example of owners doing the right thing no different than the owner of the sacramento kings. he immediately said zero tolerance. there's no place for kind of racial institutional racism in our league and i think that's what commissioner stern -- commissioner silver did. the players spoke out strongly. . it's real, it's prevalent