more extract extract if if they can get away with it and you'll often mentioned bill gates versus carlos slim as an example so how and nation state can encourage innovation while controlling the excesses in the era of globalization who can do that latter part of preventing big business from extracting too much because i think that's. they argument all the back 50 years and i don't know trump supporters are making that that you need the nation state in order to control all those multinational elite school respond to no one i mean i think it's true that. as failures of regulation i think that people don't really you know there's a very intense kind of debate and the economics profession going all the moments about what's the best way to regulate these industries and some says these industries have made enormous amounts of money by capturing information that you know that people didn't really understand they were providing all people didn't understand it was valuable and you know and so they're getting it for free and then they're selling it you know. so there's all sorts of issues about how you