carlow just worked with the alaska arctic policy commission in developing that. she is providing great input to us. we have been frustrated -- we have been trying to set up a panel of experts to consult with alaska natives. we're trying to find the right device for doing that the right contract, whatever it might be, to make a more formal arrangement between us and doing some consulting with alaska natives. at the end of the day where do we put alaskans into this organization? well, once again, it's an international thing that is a federal function. we appreciate the input. they sit in on the alaska -- the arctic policy group, and that will continue. how do we more formally involve system i know craig fleener is coming up, the new governor's representative for the arctic and we'll continue to engage as much as we can. >> thank you. in the middle. >> from from the polish embassy. just a question. as far as cooperation with russia, can you explain something more? you said you had to fight for the talks there so if you could say something more and just along this li