in the "crossfire", ralph nader and carly fear fiorina. mr.hink anyone would want to know is how does it get paid for. >> by government taxes. >> i pay for it. >> just like medicare or v.a. is based on taxes. just like a lot of local and state plans are based on taxes. >> so my taxes would go up. >> they would go up but you wouldn't have to buy health insurance. in canada they never see a bill. have a medicare card like this. and prices are much lower. have you read steve bril's report. staggering reports. 15,000 times more. a hundred times more. like a wild west. >> does competition allow them to go with their feet? >> yeah, competition going up. as one hospital is left in more and more communities because of mergers because antitrust laws are involved, you can go to canada and have a lehernia repa at a hospital, best quality in the world, and it cost one-third of what a hernia cost -- >> that's the good story. plenty of son great outcomes of canadian healthcare and british and cuban for example. >> that's true. wait times are extremely long.