carly fiorina helped out on some presidential campaigns.esident argued to me for raising the minimum wage. take a listen to what jack lew said. >> i don't feel it is right to work for 40 hours and take home pay below the poverty line. >> for him, it is an issue of economic justice. the congressional budget office said it would lift 1 million people out of poverty with the minimum wage raise. you have the companies like the gap, carly,ntarily raising minimum wage for 65,000 people. should the federal government force companies to do it or should companies start doing it like the gap. >> i think first of all, the many, many companies pay above the minimum wage. as demand rises and productivity rises, wages rise. we know that. i understand the appeal of the minimum wage. i understand the ethical argument. the facts are the minimum wage increase helps people who have a job. it doesn't help people who don't have a job. it particularly doesn't help people who are low skilled and who need an entry-level job to perhaps work their way up. a lot of e

doesn't pay when someone tries to go against their nature and be somebody like nadella trying to be carly fiorinanot going to pay dividends. keep off camera for awhile. >> sidney, does it help or hurt that bill gates is going to be there and has a very significant role still at the company? >> well, obviously bill gates is the icon and founder of the company, and what it sounds like he's going to be a bit of a partner for mr. nadella. not a bad partner to have. but when it comes to change and moving things around and trying to kind of take advantage of some of the things that the googles and facebooks and amazons and apples have been doing the last decade, that balmer's microsoft maybe hasn't been as good at, it's a little tougher to change. it's not just bill gates. it's also steve balmer sitting on the board. you have two former powerful people overlooking your shoulder -- looking over your shoulder and that makes it more difficult to make the bigger changes. >> all right, gentlemen, thank you so much. appreciate it. >>> today's yahoo! finance question of the day, what's your take on microsoft