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prominent women's appearance, resurrecting memories of his insults aimed at the wife of ted cruz, carly fiorinand the women who accused him of sexual assault. >> she would not be my first choice, that i can tell you. you don't know. that would not be my first choice. >> reporter: as for the president's attacks on stormy daniels, a source close to the white house said that the president simply misfired with that horse face tweet, but added his advisers have all but given up on controlling the president's posts on social media. wolf, getting back to the case of jamal khashoggi, the president told fox earlier today he thinks it would be bad if the saudis knew about the murder or disappearance of jamal khashoggi before it happened. but, wolf, it is not exactly clear what the president would do about it while there are high profiles republicans on capitol hill like marco rubio saying there would be severe consequences for the saudi government if they were behind the killing of jamal khashoggi. there's zero clarity from the white house as to whether or not the president would be on board with that. w

take his 2016 opponent, carly fiorina. look at that face, he commented. would anyone vote for that? >> i won't spend a single cycle wondering what that means. on former miss universe -- aused him of sexual assault. >> yeah, i'm going to go after her. believe me, she would not be my first choice, that i can tell you. >> reporter: and this about megyn kelly, after a testy debate exchange. >> you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her wherever. women! do we love women! >> reporter: but now, three weeks from the midterms, the latest polling shows more than half of all women strongly disapprove of the president. >> women who previously voted republican just aren't going to do it this midterm cycle and they might not ever do it again in their lifetime. >> reporter: in that new interview with the associated press, the president says he will not accept blame if republicans do lose the house, pointing out he's not on the ballot. the president is also talking about michael cohen, saying cohen lied when he testified donald trump directed him to break the law.

howie: the "new york times" ran a story saying here are the things trump said, carly fiorina's face. megyn kelly bleeding from her whatever. maybe that's piling on, but did he open the door? mo: every time he does it he opens the door. the outrage factor in the social media era on both sides gets overhyped. this is where i'm glad when he does it, people are calling him out. the second we stop criticizing it, we should never allow it. howie: i wish he hadn't used horse face. but a lot of people outraged by very little coverage of rapper t.i. making this mocking video with a fake woman portraying melania. you can see where this goes. the first lady's press secretary called this disgusting, and i have to agree. you didn't see much on that. let's condemn both sides as we see what's happening here. let's condemn both sides. we don't need to see that any further. thank you, panel, emily jashinsky, sara fischer and mo elleithee. bret baier is here with his first look at his interview with the saudi foreign minister. howie: the saudi foreign minister is defending the kingdom's explanation of

you say it's typical trump but carly fiorina and i think, man, at some point american women are like this guy's -- >> and something about important stars. >> i see. i think it's all woman in terms of his attitude. i think the real interesting thing here is how the right is making this out to be such a big win. total vindication for donald trump when this isn't the main case. the main case has to do with the non-disclosure agreement. this was about the unknown guy in the parking lot -- >> do you think people care about the non-disclosure? >> my point to you is this case is not settled. >> here's the issue, this was the case they just won was probably the strongest one because to your point about the hush agreement she took the money. it will be hard for her to be proven to be right if she'd taken the money. >> she said in fact it wasn't properly signed and michael cohen who now -- i don't know where he stands -- this is where the conversation -- not only here but in america has gone. michael avenatti had a relationship? >> he's involved. >> he had his dna test and he's 25% reptile. i

. >> we heard his rhetoric before when he criticized carly fiorina and poke tha -- and pocahontas,t didn'trt him. we go through the suburbs of philadelphia to northern virginia, that's soccer mom college educate the territory as well. maybe we can tone it doubt down a little bit. trish: advice from susan li. tone it count. don't mention the stormy thing. i think he felt wronged. this woman came over him aggressively. not just her. avenatti was part of that. avenatti came so hard after him and so hard after justice kavanaugh maybe that was a momentary payback kind of tweet. >> i am sorry the most of powerful person on the planet got his feeling hurt and needed to lash out. they are right, this will be about the issues. one of the issues people are voting on is healthcare. president trump and the republicans are trying to take away the healthcare rights and benefits that came with the affordable care act. they want to strip away preexisting conditions. they want to make it harder for people who aren't in love with the affordable care act. that's a huge problem for president trump. they are s

talking about carly fiorina.e tried to say after the controversy that blah blah blah, i was talking about her personality, not her looks, but clearly, he was. he called miss america ms. piggy. go watch the ad hillary clinton ran, type in mirrors into your internet browser. watch the ad. it features all of his comments made about women. this is not new. donald trump sees women primarily through how they look. he has done it time and time again. he's done it as a candidate, as a private citizen, as a president, and now he's doing it again. >> he also, of course, went after one of his other favorite targets, michael avenatti, stormy daniels' lawyer, who we should point out is not exactly known for his moral high ground on twitter. >> exactly. i mean, playground insults are the way donald trump relates not just to women but to everybody. he mocked rand paul for his height. and i recall him saying he comes up to here on me. and this is the way donald trump relates to the world, through childish insults and through bra

some of whom she said had given money to support carly fiorina's campaign.f her clients was a british billionaire interested in donating a lot of money to american political causes through his american born wife. in late 2015 and early 2016, right at the height of the republican primary for president, this megan lancaster got in touch with members of a never trump super pac, a group of republicans against trump and working to stop him from getting the republican nomination, to stop him from getting elected. she got in touch with those republicans. she was very nice, friendly and helpful and offered these never trump people access to her rich donors and their money to help fund their never trump republican super pac and all their other efforts to stop trump. that said, in the end, megan lancaster never wound up arranging any nominations to the never trump movement, because megan lancaster, it turns out, was not real. fake persona. this is such a good story. and now it is a great story with a big surprise ending. okay. august 2016, so late during the president

junior once called on twitter liein' ted and a rascal and tweeting one time, amazing and true, carly fiorinaust to get elected. still, do you think it will work? >> to remind people, politicians are not the people you think they are, they're not tethered to some kind of moral compass and will flip when they need political help. he's campaigning with donald trump jr., mike pence and, of course, the president is coming. donald trump jr. has been one when the president was restrained about brett kavanaugh's accuser dr. ford, he was on twitter going after her immediately within days of those accusations coming out and now we're seeing kavanaugh could help republicans in these midterm elections and we'll have to see if he will use that as a defense and help ted cruz that way tonight. >> eyeing a political career himself, might run for governor. what do you think? you're not supposed to laugh. >> i'm sure he is. this is what i was noting, the come down from this. if you look back at the rnc in cleveland, as i'm loath to do, but if you look back at that and the speech that donald trump jr. gave it

i don't und,erestimate the ha but when he went after carly fiorina about the way she looked and the peoplethe worldwide wrestling association ethos has been the ethos he's played on the campaign trail. the desire to offend is part of the fun of the thing. i totally get mark's point. you have to try to maintain standards of how public officials are supposed to act with integrity but sometimes i feel mann ipulated whei react because that's what donald trump wants. >> i want davi to trust hisn instincts, which are good, but david tumped on wat i think is the central element of the campaign, are we going to have guardrails and establish guardrails in this country as tt establish s right and wrong and i think that to a great degree is what this election is about. gianforte himself public pi aapologized and accepted thed court's ent. >> woodruff: meantime,re hard-fought coional races around the country and dozens of hard-fought senate races t i was honorbe asked to be part to part ofa moderat debate last night in st. louis, missouri. what came out of that discussion, i think, loud and clear is t

. >> also said about carly fiorina, quote, look at that face. would anyone vote for that? retweeted a photo comparing heidi cruz to melania trump in an unfavorable way. i mean, you know, kirsten, people, it's become normal that this happens and this is what the president of the united states does, and there are plenty of people, you know, at a rally who laugh and applaud and are right there with it. women included. >> yeah. yeah. it's typical. it's not normal. but yeah, it's become something that we have become used to hearing. and i think that the reason you see just it's not just men who are laughing at it, there are women laughing at it, is because of what i was saying before. i think this is very engrained in our consciousness and the way we think about things. the idea that women's highest value comes from the way that they look or the idea that they're not as smart as men so they have a low iq or if you're a racist person, that you believe that a black person has a lower iq. he is tapping into things that people think. and unfortunately, people are going to get mad a

saying that msnbc personality mika brzezinski was bleeding badly from a safe lift and criticizing carly fiorina should also note stormy daniels lawyer michael avenatti also went on twitter and criticized the president for verbally attacking women. remember, this lawsuit began when stormy daniels said back in april that five years after her alleged affair with donald trump she was bartender by unidentified man in las vegas parking lot to keep quiet or something bad could happen to her. daniels even worked with a forensic artist to create a sketch of a man. that's when trump tweeted that her claim and the sketch was a con job. damages then suedaniels sued tht and judge ruled the comment is quote quote rhetorical high hyperbole normally associated with politics. in other words it's free speech. go after michael avenatti in texas. that appears because daniels is a resident of texas. >> shepard: as catholic church faces accusations that covered up child sex abuse rampant in the united states. the archdiocese in the nation's capital has released a list of dozens of priests who face what church leader

made fun of carly fiorina's face and still won the election. "access hollywood" video, made fun of machado for gaining weight and still won the presidency. i'm not sure this is going to be any digit. >> the only thing i'll add, he didn't think he was going to win the presidency. >> that's true. >> he made the comments he was so uncertain about his margin of victory that he did not draft a victory speech. he did not contemplate the possibility. it wasn't like he won by a lot. >> no, we should remind people that hillary clinton actually had 3 million more votes in the popular vote than he did. he won the electoral college. but more americans voted for hillary clinton. >> and we should let him go on thinking misogyny is a good strategy. i'm sure most democrats would like that. elise, it may be paying dividends. this is from the "washington post" today. "like the conservative tea party groups that rose up after barack obama was elected president in 2008 and that helped republicans retake the house and gain power in state legislatures in 2010, this

those comments that are listed referring to carly fiorina, for example, one of his republican primary opponents saying why would anybody vote for someone with a face like that. it's hard grappling with that, still jarring seeing that coming from the president in his official twitter feed. he was able to win the election despite fact he made comments like this in his mind and in the minds of some around him because he made comments like this, because he broke the mold, because he was able to say what he was thinking, was able to create this impression he was this swaggering tell it like it is kind of person. and he believes that his base is going to stick with him even when and maybe because he's choosing to do things like this. that said, the president is now the leader of a party. he's not just a candidate on his own. he's the leader of a republican party that is about to have a very, very consequential election now in less than a month. and when you've got voters across the country, especially those suburban republican or independent-leaning women in these districts who are trying t

then there was the notorious carly fiorina incident during the campaign, saying, quote, look at that would anyone vote for that? it led to an awkward moment at a debate. >> i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> i think she's got a beautiful face, and i think she is a beautiful woman. >> reporter: women who have accused trump of sexual misconduct found themselves targeted by him in public. trump hit back at accuser natasha stoynoff with a horrible insult about her looks not measuring up to his standards. >> take a look. you look at her, look at her words. you tell me what you think. i don't think so. i don't think so. >> reporter: trump's biographers say no one in his past ever disciplined him for behavior like this, that in the atmosphere he grew up in, intimidation and objective indication of women were simply accepted. >> donald trump is a misogynist. on the one hand he has been good for the careers of a few women, but he has always been antagonistic to women. he once said he wanted to punch rosie o'donnell square in the face. it is part of